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Title: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 02, 2012, 09:20:25 pm
You can now pre-order AoD, should you choose to do so. Here’s the link:

https://secure.bmtmicro.com/servlets/Orders.ShoppingCart?CID=7483&PRODUCTID=74830000 (https://secure.bmtmicro.com/servlets/Orders.ShoppingCart?CID=7483&PRODUCTID=74830000)

We’re using BMT Micro, a payment processor which is fast and safe. I used it myself when I bought Eschalon (Thomas’ game) and it’s used by several indie companies.


Why now?

We were asked quite often to start taking pre-orders. We didn't want to do it until everyone had a chance to play the full demo and experience the game. Now, after two demos, you know exactly what we're offering.

You know what we delivered, you know what we’re fixing, you know what to expect. You like what you see and feel it's worth 25 bucks? Show us your support. You don't like what you see? Have doubts? Buy yourself a pizza instead. It's cool.

Why are you asking us to pre-order?

First, to show your support. Second, to help us. For example, Nick’s (our programmer) computer just died. He’s using an old box for now, but we’ll have to get him a new one. It would be nice to be able to do so without dipping into personal savings. Also, Nick has to make a living by teaching (yeah, he’s a bright guy) in a computer academy. It would really help us if he didn’t have to teach and could focus on AoD full time. Same goes for Oscar and Ivan. Third, it would be nice to recover past expenses (like Torque’s license - $1,000) and help with the current one. Our bandwidth went from 70-120GB to 220-250GB in the last two months. Etc.


Specifics:

PRE-ORDER: pay $25, you’ll be sent a download link. The download file is a placeholder. When the game is released, it will be enclosed in a zip file of the same name and you will be able to retrieve the updated file using the same download link sent with your original order.

If you lose the email, contact us and we’ll sort it out.

DONATE: you can select a higher amount and pay more, if you want to. The ONLY reason we set it up this way is because we were repeatedly asked to do so in the past. We’re not asking anyone to pay more, but if you want to, the option is there. To show our gratitude, the very least we can do is offer you some “rewards”, for the lack of a better word:

-   $25 (pre-order) – will be listed and thanked in the credits
-   $30 (pre-order plus $5 extra) – will receive a nice, golden forum tag – Patron of the Motherfucking Arts (PM Nick (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1) your real name or order ID to receive it)
-   $40 (pre-order plus $15 extra) – you can create a filler character* for the game
-   Any more than that – we will be very, very grateful. We don’t want to copy the Kickstarter approach and offer tiered rewards. Donate if you feel like it. The tag and the filler character aren’t to entice you to give you more money, but to thank you if you choose to do so.

FILLER CHARACTER – if you like the setting and want to create a filler (non-essential, not involved in any quests) character, you can submit a background story (who your character is and how he/she fits into the world) and suggested dialogue with the player character. Then we’ll work with you, developing this character further and modifying the dialogues as necessary.

The main goal here is to provide different and believable personal stories and points of view (how your character sees the world, etc) that are consistent with what’s been presented in the demo. In other words, no wacky shit. The world is rich and has room for plenty of different characters if you feel creative – traders, prospectors, farmers, religious fanatics and true believers, veteran soldiers, beggars, raiders, loremasters, minor nobility, refugees fleeing failed settlements, people who did time in the mines, assassins, thieves, etc.

Kind of like talking to the raiders in Fallout. More involved if you feel like it. You’re limited to one conversation (the player character with your character), but you can make it as involved and deep as you please. Feel free to use skill, stat, reputation checks.

To ease some concerns. We aren’t planning to turn the gameworld into a zoo. I will check all submissions myself, veto everything that doesn’t fit, AND work with people to guide and shape their ideas and make them a good fit. These submissions won’t affect the setting, story, quests, but if done right, will enrich the gameworld. Needless to say, we reserve the right to insist on any changes that might be necessary, reject characters, and even refund your donation in some cases.

BOXED VERSION: We aren’t offering a box version at this stage. It will be offered when the game is ready and when we place an order and will have something to show. You will be able to order it separately (i.e. you can pre-order the digital version now for $25 and upgrade it to a box for another $25 at any time)

DRM: None. If you feel that the game is worth paying for and, most importantly, you want to help us stay in business and make more games, support us. If not…



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SnallTrippin on April 02, 2012, 09:41:40 pm
Ordered, yay.  

EDIT - I probably should have read the post first, bur I feel like you might get a lot of "filler" characters, lol.  Also posted to reddit, I figure any real RPG gamer who plays the beta/demo will have to buy the damn thing.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 02, 2012, 09:47:32 pm
You are a true patriot :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 02, 2012, 09:47:40 pm
And you're officially our first customer! :) :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SnallTrippin on April 02, 2012, 09:56:30 pm
Score.   Any idea when you'll see the "sale"  ?? I received an email BMT saying they got it but I also got a javascript warning on the secondary order page (Since I have NoScript running).  I would hate to lose my exalted status.  ...now to go try to figure out how to not suck at combat as anything other than an awesome assassin. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 02, 2012, 10:00:03 pm
Vince takes care of that, we'll see in the morning :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Lainestin on April 02, 2012, 10:07:34 pm
Ordered.  ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: FireStomp on April 02, 2012, 10:18:27 pm
Payment's being processed. I decided to chip in an extra ten dollars above the "filler character" price so Vince can buy some sort of awesome hipster indie game for his daughter. Godspeed, gentlemen.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 02, 2012, 10:25:07 pm
When I get some cash together I'm paying $40 and writing one of those damn filler characters. And I want that fancy-ass tag.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SnallTrippin on April 02, 2012, 10:29:14 pm
When I get some cash together I'm paying $40 and writing one of those damn filler characters. And I want that fancy-ass tag.

I'm totally putting it on my business cards.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 02, 2012, 10:32:51 pm
Thanks guys :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 02, 2012, 10:39:27 pm
Incidentally, is there an appropriate place in the game for a broken one of those minotaur robots to act as a glorified item/flavor text dispenser/skill checker? Because I've an idea or two for that filler character.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: curiousity on April 02, 2012, 11:28:01 pm
Might be a good idea to sticky this thread...  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on April 03, 2012, 12:15:20 am
Heh, not the best time for me really, what with contributing to those three recent kickstarter campaigns, but seeing as I've been badgering Vince about giving us the "donate as much as the game is worth to you" option since forever, $40 it is. Keep on fighting the good fight.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: bhex on April 03, 2012, 12:24:44 am
Pre-ordered! Good work!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 03, 2012, 12:32:11 am
Thank you, gentlemen! New portion of fancy tags will be handed out in some hours, when the morning come to Vince and I have a couple of hours of sleep =)

Pre-ordered! Good work!

Thank you, and welcome to the forums!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Tigranes on April 03, 2012, 01:29:59 am
Alright, I'll preorder as soon as I figure out whether I want a filler character. (If I do, and pop down $40, how does the later upgrade to a box version work? Another $25? That makes sense.)

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximB on April 03, 2012, 01:45:16 am
If I preorder now, and you (or a game porter) will  make the Linux version later - could I get the Linux version ?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: kentable on April 03, 2012, 02:25:10 am
Alright, filler character coming up!

p.s.
Damn you NO Script! Thar might be some strangeness during my order processing since the redirect the CC processing site was blocked by noscript. It's happened before on a different computer but should be resolved sooner or later on BMT's end. :wallbang:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 02:42:40 am
Wow, what a rare case, it supports payments via Maestro  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on April 03, 2012, 03:12:20 am
Aight, if I did things right, there should be 30 bucks coming your way to spend on blow and hookers. :panic:



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on April 03, 2012, 03:17:35 am
Done! Good luck guys  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Riddler on April 03, 2012, 03:24:27 am
Preordered :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on April 03, 2012, 03:28:56 am
Ordered.

Put in a bit extra, but will only write a character if I can think of something I consider interesting (nice way to relieve yourself of some tedium by the way :smug:).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: avatarrr on April 03, 2012, 03:45:15 am
I think you should place a big article at your website regarding preorders.

Edit : link to forum post is all right but consider puting information from the post on the front page...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: thekdawg21 on April 03, 2012, 04:01:36 am
Pre-ordered and sent you guys an extra $5 for a Red Bull or a 5-hour energy to get a little extra work done one night, lol. 

I loved the demo by the way.  I thought it was quite fantastic and can't wait to see the finished product.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 03, 2012, 04:06:34 am
Done.Gave you 40$  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kival on April 03, 2012, 04:21:15 am
Do I undestand correctly 25 $ is before taxes?

EDIT: And if I choose to pay 40 $, do I also have to pay the increase tax-ammount then? Seems odd to me to pay taxes for an additional donation but I sure as hell have no idea about american financial laws.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 03, 2012, 04:33:34 am
Do I undestand correctly 25 $ is before taxes?

EDIT: And if I choose to pay 40 $, do I also have to pay the increase tax-ammount then? Seems odd to me to pay taxes for an additional donation but I sure as hell have no idea about american financial laws.
Hey, it's a way to show how you love Iron Tower and how you support them.It's just like a fucking DLC, you can choose to take the increased version donation or the minimal one


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 04:50:07 am
So, you can additionally support US economics, so it does not collapse again, exporting its problems into the entire world  :smug:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on April 03, 2012, 05:16:41 am
So, you can additionally support US economics, so it does not collapse again, exporting its problems into the entire world  :smug:
It actually goes to whichever country you happen to reside in (the VAT rate is your local VAT rate).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on April 03, 2012, 05:24:56 am
^^ $0.00 here in the land down under ;).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nazarene on April 03, 2012, 05:49:15 am
pre-order done and only one more year to go  :panic:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VonVentrue on April 03, 2012, 05:52:18 am
Pre-ordered. I have no doubts you'll put the money to good use, considering the quality of the demo.
I appreciate the prospect of having the option to "upgrade" to a boxed copy eventually - have you done some research into the shipping costs?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Palmer Eldritch on April 03, 2012, 06:01:28 am
Cool, I will most likely send some money your way next month (I'm a poor student and I just put in my 15 dollar pledge for Wasteland 2).

Definitely interested in writing an NPC, I already have an idea that I think you might like.    


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 06:21:52 am
Let's flashmob and add Easter egg NPCs from Fallout 1-2, Darklands, Prelude to Darkness, Arcanum, Planescape:Torment, and Black Company  :smug:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 03, 2012, 06:26:38 am
Finally! I ordered for $50, because I can and because I want to see ITS successful and able to make more games like this - I like my AAA CRPGs to be honest (warts and dumbed down, and all), but variety is the spice of life. Also can't pass the opportunity to add a little bit of life to AoD, for us explorer types  ;)

(And you even updated your homebpage right along with it - I'm so proud of you! ;) )


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on April 03, 2012, 06:29:52 am
Let's flashmob and add Easter egg NPCs from Fallout 1-2, Darklands, Prelude to Darkness, Arcanum, Planescape:Torment, and Black Company  :smug:
Dibs on Harold. I always wanted to complete his evolution into a tree. I haven't played FO3 or FO:NV, but this is too crazy (in an awesome way) to have been done before.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 06:42:24 am
28 orders - $1,040.66.

Thanks, guys.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 03, 2012, 07:07:11 am
Well, well, BMT doesn't want my money... Guess I need to try again.

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We are unable to complete your order for:
 
During processing your order was queued for manual review by a customer service
 representative and was declined.   Reasons for declining an order most commonly
 involve credit card and address issues that do not allow us to completely verify
 the order.  You may contact us via at orders@bmtmicro.com for more information.
 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: thekdawg21 on April 03, 2012, 07:44:42 am
I gave $250 to Wasteland 2, and I am not wealthy by any means.  If you guys need more money I can come up with it, if it would be put to good use.  I really hope this is the very beginning of a golden age for our genre.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: erbgor on April 03, 2012, 07:57:11 am
Put 50 for the boxed version. I was always confident I would buy AoD, so even the fact that I only played about 30 minutes of the demo on my ancient system didn't stop me.

Might actually buy one or two more copies as gifts when the game comes out.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 08:06:31 am
The Russians are with you :commie:
http://core-rpg.ru/news/indi_predzakaz_age_of_decadence/2012-04-03-1411 (http://core-rpg.ru/news/indi_predzakaz_age_of_decadence/2012-04-03-1411)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ichkannmirnur10merken on April 03, 2012, 08:09:06 am
Played the Combat Demo, got my ass kicked.

Played the Beta, got my ass kicked.

Put down 50$ for the boxed version, hope to get my ass kicked again in 2013.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 03, 2012, 08:15:12 am
The Russians are with you :commie:
http://core-rpg.ru/news/indi_predzakaz_age_of_decadence/2012-04-03-1411 (http://core-rpg.ru/news/indi_predzakaz_age_of_decadence/2012-04-03-1411)
And so in France too
http://www.rpgfrance.com/actu-10451-1-age-decadence-pre-commande (http://www.rpgfrance.com/actu-10451-1-age-decadence-pre-commande)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on April 03, 2012, 08:27:14 am
Out of curiosity: Will there be some sort of template/format guidelines for writing the throwaway NPCs/conversations (so that you don't need to wade through tens of submissions that are ordered and formatted in a different manner)? (And, now that I think of it,  how are forum accounts linked to specific pre-orders? PM Vince?)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on April 03, 2012, 08:45:24 am
If I pay enough to get the filler NPC, do I also get the awesome forum tag?


Will be donating in either case  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SuicideBunny on April 03, 2012, 09:00:16 am
another preorder.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 09:09:43 am
Yes, of course.

As for the guidelines and such, good question. I'm not sure what the best way to handle it is yet. Maybe we'll open a special subforum to discuss submissions.

Basically, we need something like this:

NPC text/intro: description of what the player sees; the NPC might address the player or not.

Examples:

"You are near the market square when a man in rich robes approaches you.

"A moment of your time, kind <master/mistress>. I’m Miltiades, a merchant by trade. I’m terribly sorry to impose on you, but I’m in a bit of a predicament... You see, I deal in the finest weapons and armor. Each item is a work of art, forged from the rarest metals and crafted to perfection. Unfortunately, I can’t open up a shop until I settle a dispute with the Commercium, and I can’t settle it until I start selling my merchandise.

Thus, I have no choice but to beg people to show kindness and buy what they can at greatly reduced prices. I’m asking only for what I paid for these items, so it is quite a bargain. Would you like to take a look? My wares are in a house nearby."

or

You see the inn's patrons begin to gather around a strangely garbed man, who paces in circles, muttering. A murmur of expectation runs through the room and sure enough, the man stops his pacing, turns, and with a dramatic flourish cries out "A tale!" All are quiet now, but the man's rich, deep voice rolls out to fill the silence. "A tale for tonight's entertainment! And what a tale! History itself will unfold before your very eyes, a tale of mystery and wonder! Come one, come all, and listen!"

PC lines & your character's lines

You can do it in the following way:

NPC text
1. ...
2. ...
3. ...

If 1 - NPC text: ...
1a. ...
1b. ...
1c. ...

If 1a - NPC text...

Edit: I suggest to stick with personal stories (but don't go overboard there) and your character's views. For example, a successful mercenary, who may have had hard time looking for a job in more peaceful times, may enjoy the chaos and hope for a major conflict.

Also, it would be interesting to see some details. Show the player what a certain job is about. Kind of like we did with Dellar a bit:

"Nothing happens just like that. You ever worked caravans? Good men are expensive, so the merchant guilds hire what comes cheap – kids, rejects, cutthroats. They start dropping like flies after an attack or two, which means less sleep and more shit to deal with for those who live. You are always up, always working. You and the slaves who pull those damn carts. After awhile you start wondering who has it easier – you or the slaves."
...
"A sword to my throat – the most convincing argument there is.

We were doing a two-week run. A few days in, we hit a storm. The sand was everywhere. You couldn’t see anything, couldn’t even open your eyes. The boss man told us to press on and we did. To be fair, nobody thought that we could be attacked in that storm.

The raiders picked our men off one by one. By the time we’d realized what was happening, it was too late. They gave me a chance to live and I took it. Didn’t even have to think about it."



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: xenocide on April 03, 2012, 09:32:33 am
Ordered.

I always knew I would buy the game, but the demo convinced me it is worth a boxed copy.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Thoth on April 03, 2012, 09:35:06 am
What about preorders from EU countries? When I preorder, If I choose the country to be Romania, stupid btmicro adds 24% VAT tax. I already cheated this site once for another game, by selecting country to be US. Can I do the same now and preorder the boxed version? (meaning 50$ + whatever will be required for shipping later)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 09:42:25 am
Hehe, then I guess if I ordered it from Norway it would be +200%.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 10:01:23 am
I asked BMT Micro about the sales tax:

"The European Union passed a law requiring VAT on Electronically supplied services in 2003. This includes any downloadable product. BMT Micro is registered with the UK and assesses VAT based on the country in which the customer resides according to regulations.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives (http://webarchive.nationalarchives)....ntent&id=HMCE_CL_000914&propertyType=document

Basilisk Games shopping cart also charges VAT to EU customers (even his Plimus cart)."


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 03, 2012, 10:09:36 am
Quote
Third, it would be nice to recover past expenses (like Torque’s license - $1,000) and help with the current one. Our bandwidth went from 70-120GB to 220-250GB in the last two months.
So Vince, you explain very well why the pre-order comes now.But are you not afraid that the benefits from the preorder will be largerly "eat" until the whole game will be launch with the risk to see the final benefits decreased from the early pre-order benefits.Is there a risk for you to decrease your "benefit plan" and to affect the further project financial plan?
If you "eat" now a part of what you could earn when the game will be launch, it will have an impact on the previsionnal full game's benefits?What you earn today will not be earn next year?
I'm quite sure you had think about that.So is there a part from the pre-order benifits that goes now for the incoming project?
(hard to translate my whole thought :'( )


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 03, 2012, 10:24:36 am
Patrons (of the motherfucking arts), please PM me your real names, so I can associate them with your forum name and attach the tag to your profile.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ruinous on April 03, 2012, 10:38:51 am
+1 pre-order. Just hope the apocalypse doesn't land in the meantime :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 11:06:43 am
So Vince, you explain very well why the pre-order comes now.But are you not afraid that the benefits from the preorder will be largerly "eat" until the whole game will be launch with the risk to see the final benefits decreased from the early pre-order benefits.
I don't think so. From my experience, pre-orders never outsell a product when it's released, ranging from 5 to 25% most.

For example, so far we have 40 pre-orders and 2 pending orders.

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Is there a risk for you to decrease your "benefit plan" and to affect the further project financial plan?
The game either sells enough for us to continue (both pre-orders and future sales) or it doesn't.

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If you "eat" now a part of what you could earn when the game will be launch, it will have an impact on the previsionnal full game's benefits?What you earn today will not be earn next year?
I'm quite sure you had think about that.So is there a part from the pre-order benifits that goes now for the incoming project?
I hope to raise $10-15,000 in pre-orders. It's not an unreasonable amount. I doubt we'll raise more.

As for the full game, I hope to sell at least 10,000 copies. Hardly an unreasonable goal. Thus, my pre-order "goal" is less then 10% of what we hope to sell when the game is out.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Aptus on April 03, 2012, 11:20:15 am
Wooo, preordered, I was a cheapskate though and only went for $30.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Demiath on April 03, 2012, 11:48:10 am
Well, after all I did pay $60 for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 (to take just one example), so elementary Activision logic dictates that I pay no less for another new product which is significantly more to my liking than Infinity Ward's shooter was. In other words, you can thank Bobby Kotick for this one...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 11:51:13 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Erich_Zann on April 03, 2012, 11:54:49 am
Just put down my 50 for a boxed copy.
Can't wait to see this one finished, I had a blast playing the demo with the assassin so far. I love the CYOA aspect.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: likaq on April 03, 2012, 12:12:35 pm
I just gave you 100$ ( well, it's 123$ with VAT ).   :salute:
Good luck guys  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: bhlaab on April 03, 2012, 12:22:34 pm
I kind of wish I had sprung for the $40. But I also gave Wasteland 2 $30 so fair's fair.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on April 03, 2012, 12:31:54 pm
Already had tons of fun with the demo, and figured it's worth at least as much as my electricity bill, so here you go, 150$ (no VAT here! hah!).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 12:37:02 pm
Thanks, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dicksmoker on April 03, 2012, 02:25:04 pm
28 orders - $1,040.66.

Thanks, guys.

 :salute:

Who the fuck donated coins?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: FireStomp on April 03, 2012, 02:33:31 pm
Say, Vince, did you clear $2500 yet?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 03, 2012, 02:43:42 pm
Not yet. 61 orders, 2231.63 USD.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on April 03, 2012, 02:48:46 pm
How many nights out, dancing Salsa, would that bring you?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Agrajag on April 03, 2012, 03:08:18 pm
Another $40 should be coming your way soon. Feels good to support the motherfucking arts!  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 03, 2012, 03:24:33 pm
Payment went through now :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 03, 2012, 03:39:18 pm
How many nights out, dancing Salsa, would that bring you?

We salseros are cheap bastards, we go to free parties and only drink water :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 03, 2012, 04:03:02 pm
True-true, I went to salsa clubs in Sweden, because they were free entrance, and because I hate alcohol.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Erik on April 03, 2012, 04:59:19 pm
Great stuff! Pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 03, 2012, 05:11:39 pm
True-true, I went to salsa clubs in Sweden, because they were free entrance, and because I hate alcohol.

If you can, go listen a band called Calle Real, really cool swedish salsa band. I want to go see them one day.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on April 03, 2012, 05:38:41 pm
I went to a sort of "first lesson free" deal at a Salsa place in Stockholm. It was a pretty long time ago and I can't really remember anything from the lesson.

But there were many beautiful women there!

This is important.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: puppyonastik on April 03, 2012, 05:43:50 pm
I assume the pre-ordering will last until the game ships or until is it you recoup your expenditures? Also, is the marketing drive which was mentioned years ago going to be under a separate account?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 03, 2012, 05:56:29 pm
Until the game is released. Well, when it's released, we'll simply remove the words "pre-order" from the product description.

Marketing drive - we only have one "account", so it's all the same. We'll spend as much as we can on advertising the game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Silellak on April 03, 2012, 09:24:37 pm
What can I say?  I'm a sucker for supporting indie projects.

Pre-ordered.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Saruman on April 03, 2012, 10:58:45 pm
Well, well, BMT doesn't want my money... Guess I need to try again.

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We are unable to complete your order for:
 
During processing your order was queued for manual review by a customer service
 representative and was declined.   Reasons for declining an order most commonly
 involve credit card and address issues that do not allow us to completely verify
 the order.  You may contact us via at orders@bmtmicro.com for more information.
 

This is not bad. I have same mail from them but they took money from the card.  :wallbang:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 03, 2012, 11:08:13 pm
What is your name? Let me check if the payment got through to us.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Mudman on April 03, 2012, 11:13:41 pm
Chalk up another, ITS. I very much enjoyed the demo and wish you all every success.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 04, 2012, 07:16:43 am
For others paying in EUR, excluding VAT, did you pay EUR22.43  for the $30 option? Since I have to work out the conversion myself.

Of course ER fluctuate every second. I'll just use EUR23 + VAT anyway.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 04, 2012, 07:26:15 am
For others paying in EUR, excluding VAT, did you pay EUR22.43  for the $30 option? Since I have to work out the conversion myself.

Of course ER fluctuate every second. I'll just use EUR23 + VAT anyway.

Why? You can switch the currency to dollar to set the price you pay?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 04, 2012, 07:33:10 am
This is by far the stupidest thing I have ever asked on an internet forum. I don't think I deserve the tag which will soon follow under my username.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 04, 2012, 07:33:27 am
Only joking of course - about the patron tag that is. :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 04, 2012, 07:42:10 am
This is not bad. I have same mail from them but they took money from the card.
Emailed BMT, will let you know.

If anyone has any issues, let us know and we'll sort them out.

This is by far the stupidest thing I have ever asked on an internet forum. I don't think I deserve the tag which will soon follow under my username.
For the record, the patron thing was a joke, sort of. So, if anyone doesn't want to have inappropriate words displayed under his or her name, let us know and we can do a nice, clean tag for you.

PS. Latest stats:

81 people - 2,773.69

We need 19 more "faithful" to reach 100.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 04, 2012, 07:55:48 am
I might think of something different. Hopefully you'll reach 100 by tonight! :) I'll preorder tonight.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 04, 2012, 07:58:05 am
I want one saying "Fanatic Agent Of Decadence"  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kival on April 04, 2012, 09:00:11 am
40 $ should be on the way  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dementia Praecox on April 04, 2012, 09:58:43 am
Awesome!  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Saruman on April 04, 2012, 10:12:42 am
I recieve mail from BMT Micro, everything is OK now. They sent me my preorder link. Thank you, Vince.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 04, 2012, 10:41:03 am
Thank *you*, Saruman.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Lgrayman on April 04, 2012, 10:57:45 am
You said you can add money at any time to uprade to a boxed version, right? How would one go about doing that in the future? I pre-ordered for $40 but I'm dumb and in retrospect should've just put $50. Maybe I should try and get a refund and re-do it?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 04, 2012, 11:08:40 am
Chargebacks (refunds) affect BMT's standing with the credit card companies (and thus our standing with BMT). Ask for a refund only if you (or anyone else) changed your mind and doesn't want to pre-order the game anymore.

I'll make a note that you paid $40 and that you need to pay $10 to upgrade. Overall though, we aren't offering the box now, so please wait until it's available, which will be after the game is released.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximB on April 04, 2012, 11:10:54 am
So Vince, you haven't answered me yet...if I preorder and support you now (which I really like to do because your stuff and staff is great), will I get the Linux port when (if?) it's released ?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 04, 2012, 11:17:56 am
If you preorder now we'll all chop in and buy you a motherfucking overpriced Alienware PC.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 04, 2012, 11:20:10 am
We do want to bring the game to more players, but we're limited by what T3D can and cannot do. So, you will get the Linux port IF we can port the game without any major issues. Your money isn't a factor here, but your pre-order will be appreciated.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 04, 2012, 11:28:16 am
I want one saying "Fanatic Agent Of Decadence"  :P
Transaction accpted, so i can say now I'm a fanatic Agent Of Decadence  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximB on April 04, 2012, 11:39:24 am
We do want to bring the game to more players, but we're limited by what T3D can and cannot do. So, you will get the Linux port IF we can port the game without any major issues. Your money isn't a factor here, but your pre-order will be appreciated.

That's all I needed to hear...count me in ;)

But maybe I'll wait a little because my current new job pays very little and I don't want to be the one who brings the average payment down (I always donate above the average in the Humble Indie Bundle, even when I already own those games).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Jaesun on April 04, 2012, 12:14:05 pm
You know I've intentionally not read reviews, previews or reviews of this (for the most part) or played any of the demos. Pre-ordered and looking forward to this. When this finally comes out I'm just going to click PLAY and see what happens.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sina on April 04, 2012, 05:24:22 pm
I tried to preorder but my bank does not give permission for some reason :/ I guess I have to write the adress correct to the single letter which I doubt I can do :p I will have to see them now


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: catmorbid on April 05, 2012, 03:51:33 am
Sucks to be a piss-poor student, I have to wait until I get a job and some steady cashflow. But there'll definitely be a 40$ donation coming - just can't pass on the offer to write some content for the game ^.^


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: thomasc on April 05, 2012, 05:32:36 am
(http://members.optuszoo.com.au/~dakkon/money-brofist.png)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 05, 2012, 07:51:10 am
Thanks, guys =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 05, 2012, 07:58:57 am
I've just realised this game is called"THE Age of Decadence", and not "Age of Decadence". :o


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cb.spike on April 05, 2012, 11:49:07 am
I PRE-ordered it yesterday, got three emails from them, one email with invoice, but still have money on my account. How long will take them to take money from the card?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 05, 2012, 12:03:36 pm
Depends on your bank, I guess?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: John Yossarian on April 05, 2012, 01:49:43 pm
Finally got paid so I could do my patriotic duty. Godspeed gentlemen  :salute:.

PS. Those guys at BMT are awesome. Had mismatched address, wrote them and within five minutes they had replied. Sent them the address correctly this time and again, within 5 minutes I had my invoice and links email. WOULD USE AGAIN.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 05, 2012, 01:57:25 pm
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 05, 2012, 04:50:38 pm
128 people!

Special thanks to Ken from Seattle - $300 is very generous, Luis from São Paulo, Shai from Qiryat Bialik, Marek from Gliwice, Radek from Wroclaw (clearly, Polska jeszcze nie zginęła), Jonas from Oslo, Svein from Trondheim, and Joshua from Baton Rouge for going above and beyond and showing your support.

Thank you for standing with us.

PS:
Interesting fact: the bulk of orders come from 5 countries: Unites States, France, Germany, Sweden, and Poland.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 05, 2012, 06:49:01 pm
128 people!

Round number!

Thanks, gentlemen.

I also want to do a P.S.: our patrons have some of the most coolest real names ever. I was impressed.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dickie on April 05, 2012, 07:16:53 pm
You're welcome. Don't let me down.

Edit: I meant to ask when we'll be seeing the new beta version.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 05, 2012, 07:53:08 pm
Soon.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: avatarrr on April 06, 2012, 12:47:11 am
It would be great if it could be during a holiday break. Is there any possibility to make it happen?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on April 06, 2012, 01:05:22 am
$30 (+VAT) more from Potatoland.

You should totally put an old 2D AoD prototype in the preorder link. ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: muflax on April 06, 2012, 01:09:06 am
Have been following you guys for years, but you know, I don't actually like post-apocalyptic settings all that much, but still, good dialogue, C&C? Gotta try the demo.

Still skeptical, interface is a bit cumbersome, choices seem somewhat binary, and I worry that using slightly different routes has no real effect, Bioware-style.

So I roll a Loremaster, sign up with the Commercium, get involved in various intrigues, convince the remaining guards to join Antidas and I'm prepared to get my last reward... wait what, gold stolen?! What the.. who.. forged my signature?! How?! Oh, from the contract earlier... fuck! I guess I there's no use running, right guys? Oh well, just make it quick...

And I used the same bloody trick myself! Stabbed in the back because I was too lazy to deal with Mercato myself. I totally deserved that one. I was stupid and the game made me pay for it. I can't remember a game ever betraying me in a way that I didn't see coming, but that is totally my fault. Sold!

Next character, tried some alternatives and I really started to like the teleportation. The design decisions actually make sense, and the recent changes address pretty much everything I had problems with.

So yeah. Pre-ordered right away.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: dab on April 06, 2012, 02:57:05 am
Hi guys. I have few questions, cause I didn't found explicit answers earlier:
1) About filler character:
Will there be option to randomly choose from pool of X responses. For example there could be a street philosopher who has a few different (randomly chosen) aphorisms to say.
2) Boxed version - does this 50$ price includes shipping costs?
3) Would you take crowdfounding route for your next game because seeing 23% VAT in your face may scare away customers from the EU
(considering that when you "donate" on kickstarter you don't have such issues)
Regards


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 06, 2012, 03:04:40 am
Hello, and welcome to the sect!

2) Boxed version - does this 50$ price includes shipping costs?
No. See AoD FAQ
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,124.msg2343.html#msg2343 (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,124.msg2343.html#msg2343)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: zhirzzh on April 06, 2012, 03:30:40 am
Kicked in 50.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on April 06, 2012, 05:57:54 am
I've just realised this game is called"THE Age of Decadence", and not "Age of Decadence". :o

New trait acquired: Fast Learner.
Congrats! :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 06, 2012, 07:42:15 am
Thanks, guys.

Now, to clarify about the box version. We are not offering it at the moment. It's a physical product and has to be handled differently (shipping, reporting sales, etc) so, please don't pre-order it.

When we do have it, it will be offered as a different product (to be tracked separately) and you'll be able to order it for $50 (and people who pre-ordered will get a $25 discount) plus shipping.







Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 06, 2012, 07:50:37 am
Did you get more pre-orders than you expected?

128 x $30 (the average preorder is probably higher considering some people have paid over $50) = nearly $4K, which is pretty good, and still in the first week.

This is kinda exciting. :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 06, 2012, 08:27:12 am
138 pre-orders - $4,793.51 - avg. order $35

I didn't have any expectations since I didn't have anything to base them on. Could have been hundreds of orders, could have been a few dozens.

We *are* grateful to everyone who decided to show their support. The way I see, ITS is a boutique business, so the quality of our patrons matters a lot more than their number.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cb.spike on April 06, 2012, 09:53:45 am
Ok, done. I will buy again and more when boxed version is ready  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VonVentrue on April 06, 2012, 10:37:36 am
138 pre-orders - $4,793.51 - avg. order $35

Congratulations. That's a surprisingly strong number of preorders, considering the release is pretty far off.

Special thanks to Ken from Seattle - $300 is very generous, Luis from São Paulo, Shai from Qiryat Bialik, Marek from Gliwice, Radek from Wroclaw (clearly, Polska jeszcze nie zginęła), Jonas from Oslo, Svein from Trondheim, and Joshua from Baton Rouge for going above and beyond and showing your support.

Is it a joke or... Don't tell me you have Polish ancestry, VD.
On a side note, now I feel pretty guilty for supporting you with a mere $30 (plus VAT). Is it possible to increase that amount (without receiving additional download links)?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Lemonhead on April 06, 2012, 11:04:22 am
Consider me a paying customer! Can't wait for the full game.   :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 06, 2012, 11:05:56 am
Is it a joke or... Don't tell me you have Polish ancestry, VD.
Merely well read. The history of Poland is very (http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/smiles/haughty.png), at least until the 18 century when the locals got tired of being awesome and kicking everyone's ass.

Quote
On a side note, now I feel pretty guilty for supporting you with a mere $30 (plus VAT). Is it possible to increase that amount (without receiving additional download links)?
I don't think so. If you really want to give more, you'll have to do another order, but it's not necessary. We're grateful for your support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VonVentrue on April 06, 2012, 12:32:43 pm
I've added an additional $35 - not much in the grand scheme of things, I know, but it's what I can afford at the moment and the least I can do to help you.
"Keep the awesomeness rolling", as they say.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 06, 2012, 12:38:13 pm
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 06, 2012, 01:28:47 pm
$40 of my hard-earned (read: lazily gathered) cash have been thrust into your palms. Now to start writing my filler character, who has blue hair, a single angel wing, and a very tragic past filled with lots of drama (read: rape).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Silellak on April 06, 2012, 03:56:33 pm
$40 of my hard-earned (read: lazily gathered) cash have been thrust into your palms. Now to start writing my filler character, who has blue hair, a single angel wing, and a very tragic past filled with lots of drama (read: rape).
God dammit; now I need a new character idea.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 06, 2012, 04:03:45 pm
Thanks, guys.

Now, to clarify about the box version. We are not offering it at the moment. It's a physical product and has to be handled differently (shipping, reporting sales, etc) so, please don't pre-order it.

When we do have it, it will be offered as a different product (to be tracked separately) and you'll be able to order it for $50 (and people who pre-ordered will get a $25 discount) plus shipping.


That should be added in the FAQ, as it's an interesting & important statement: those who believe they can now pre-order the full amount of the physical copy are wrong
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2584.msg84139.html#msg84139 (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2584.msg84139.html#msg84139)

  :salute:

Now, about the taxe (VAT), will there be a risk to pay those VAT twice if the transaction system considers two different products?How will you handle that?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 06, 2012, 04:21:04 pm
Did you get more pre-orders than you expected?

128 x $30 (the average preorder is probably higher considering some people have paid over $50) = nearly $4K, which is pretty good, and still in the first week.

This is kinda exciting. :)
Actually, it sounded rather dissapointing to me. I mean, 128 people? I had expected several hundreds at least. Guess that shows what a blue-eyed optimist I am. Hopefully it will develop into a steady trickle as additional updates to the beta are released that may convince more people, and once PR for the final game kicks in. But at least, it should be enough for a new box for Nick and paying some other expenses.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 06, 2012, 05:19:23 pm
Now, about the taxe (VAT), will there be a risk to pay those VAT twice if the transaction system considers two different products?How will you handle that?
You pay VAT on the amount, so paying it twice on two $25 orders is the same as paying it once on a $50 order. Unless you meant something different, in which case, my apologies. I'm dead tired now.

I mean, 128 people? I had expected several hundreds at least.
Would be nice.

We're at 145 now.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 06, 2012, 07:25:22 pm
Where's my fucking plaque?  >:(


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2012, 07:43:40 pm
PM me your real name, will you? =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 06, 2012, 08:53:24 pm
Sent. How am I supposed to rub my patron status in other people's faces without my plaque?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 06, 2012, 09:10:32 pm
It's done :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 06, 2012, 10:13:14 pm
Hells to the yeah. Suck on it, non-patrons. SUCK ON IT!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mvBarracuda on April 07, 2012, 07:53:08 am
For some odd reason I can't use my Paypal account to preorder AOD. Whenever I try to do so, I get this error message:
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Return to merchant and try a different payment method

We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
I used to buy Eschalon Book 2 via bmtmicro and Paypal as payment method and it worked just fine. Any idea what's wrong this time? I'm from Germany and it doesn't matter if I choose Euro or US Dollar as currency; it'll fail in both cases.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ichkannmirnur10merken on April 07, 2012, 07:58:55 am
For some odd reason I can't use my Paypal account to preorder AOD. Whenever I try to do so, I get this error message:
Quote
Return to merchant and try a different payment method

We are not able to process your payment using your PayPal account at this time. Please return to the merchant's website and try using a different payment method (if available).
I used to buy Eschalon Book 2 via bmtmicro and Paypal as payment method and it worked just fine. Any idea what's wrong this time? I'm from Germany and it doesn't matter if I choose Euro or US Dollar as currency; it'll fail in both cases.

I'm from Germany too, and PayPal worked without a problem.

Do you have your Bank-account tied to your PayPal-account?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mvBarracuda on April 07, 2012, 08:20:38 am
Nope, I basically transfered money from my bank account to my Paypal account. Right now I got 35€ account balance on my Paypal account. Which should be sufficent to buy AOD. But for some odd reason, it doesn't work out and always brings up the error message listed above.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: PrzeSzkoda on April 07, 2012, 08:29:23 am
Just checking whether I got my Patron badge. I want to show off to my girlfriend.

EDIT: I did not! The outrage. PMing Nick.

EDIT II: And there it is! Recognition!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ichkannmirnur10merken on April 07, 2012, 08:09:22 pm
Nope, I basically transfered money from my bank account to my Paypal account. Right now I got 35€ account balance on my Paypal account. Which should be sufficent to buy AOD. But for some odd reason, it doesn't work out and always brings up the error message listed above.

I know this may be a stupid question, but how much do you need to pay in $, and how much in € ?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: robaki on April 08, 2012, 03:38:17 am
I don't have time to play beta at the moment (and my computer is too slow to run it properly), but after a few years of following development I believe the game will kick ass. So there you go - preordered  :salute:

Nope, I basically transfered money from my bank account to my Paypal account. Right now I got 35€ account balance on my Paypal account. Which should be sufficent to buy AOD. But for some odd reason, it doesn't work out and always brings up the error message listed above.

do you have enough money to pay the tax as well? If you choose 25$ option, you will need 25$ + tax (or equivalent in another currency).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 08, 2012, 04:33:28 am
Nope, I basically transfered money from my bank account to my Paypal account. Right now I got 35€ account balance on my Paypal account. Which should be sufficent to buy AOD. But for some odd reason, it doesn't work out and always brings up the error message listed above.

I know this may be a stupid question, but how much do you need to pay in $, and how much in € ?

The minimum and default  price is $25, you can see the conversion to your currency by selecting it in the dropdown menu. Depending on your country of residence, VAT will be added. You can set a different price in $ or your currency and hit the recalculate button if you want to donate.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ichkannmirnur10merken on April 08, 2012, 12:55:26 pm
Nope, I basically transfered money from my bank account to my Paypal account. Right now I got 35€ account balance on my Paypal account. Which should be sufficent to buy AOD. But for some odd reason, it doesn't work out and always brings up the error message listed above.

I know this may be a stupid question, but how much do you need to pay in $, and how much in € ?

The minimum and default  price is $25, you can see the conversion to your currency by selecting it in the dropdown menu. Depending on your country of residence, VAT will be added. You can set a different price in $ or your currency and hit the recalculate button if you want to donate.

I know.

I was asking mvBarracuda if he had enough money on his PayPal-account to pay his preorder/donation amount + tax.

i.e. I donated 50$, which translated to ca. 41€, but with tax I had to pay ca. 48€.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darthtom1013 on April 08, 2012, 04:11:02 pm
Pre-ordered.  Now go forth and conquer(polish) Age of Decadence using my funding.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Claw on April 08, 2012, 07:30:48 pm
I wonder if the semi-secret start of taking preorders is intentional or not.

I recall a time when Vince was banging the marketing drum quite heavily with a series of interviews and articles about AoD, with long quest excepts and screenshots. Now I wonder how many people even know that he's taking preorders and how many people who were at one point interested in AoD have forgotten.

I hope Vince will get the hype train rolling again before releasing the game proper, at least.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2012, 07:51:12 am
I wouldn't say semi-secret. It's been posted on the Codex, Watch, NMA, GameBanshee, GarageGames, N4G, Indiegamemag, explodingbarrel, diygamer, vgreleases, rpgfrance, rpgitalia, manmademag, giantbomb, wegame, etc.

As for the marketing drum, there is a difference between explaining the game's concepts and bugging people, asking them to pre-order. However, if you feel that I'm missing an opportunity here, let me know what it is.

In unrelated news, our army of supporters has grown to 167. By country:

United States   47
Poland   13
Sweden    11
France   9
Germany   9
Russia   9
Australia   8
Canada    8
United Kingdom    8
Finland   7
Norway    6
Denmark   5
Brazil    3
Czech Republic   2
Estonia   2
Israel   2
Italy    2
Netherlands   2
Spain    2
Switzerland    2
Ukraine    2
Bulgaria   1
Malta   1
Namibia    1
New Zealand   1
Peru   1
Singapore   1
Slovak Republic   1
South Africa   1



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 09, 2012, 07:58:13 am
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Malta   1                                             <--- Anonxeuix
South Africa   1                                    <--- Gareth

=)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 09, 2012, 07:59:47 am
Thanks for the review.How much do you manage to "loot" now? :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2012, 08:01:09 am
$5,585.30



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 09, 2012, 08:03:01 am
You also managed to convince the entire population of Malta to rally to your cause. :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on April 09, 2012, 08:10:39 am
Pre-ordered with base amount from my UK account for tax-efficient purposes. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-jewish.gif)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mvBarracuda on April 09, 2012, 08:23:56 am
Just for the record: I was now able to finally preorder AOD! There was no way for me to donate extra money; recalculate always reset the amount :-/

The solution to my paypal issue was to use IE9 instead of the latest Firefox for preordering. I have no idea why it failed for Firefox, but using IE9 worked fine.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2012, 08:25:14 am
Thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ichkannmirnur10merken on April 09, 2012, 01:23:12 pm
Just for the record: I was now able to finally preorder AOD! There was no way for me to donate extra money; recalculate always reset the amount :-/

The solution to my paypal issue was to use IE9 instead of the latest Firefox for preordering. I have no idea why it failed for Firefox, but using IE9 worked fine.

Glad it finally worked for you.

I don't understand why it didn't work with Firefox though, since I used the latest version Firefox for preordering via PayPal, and no problems whatsoever.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on April 09, 2012, 02:23:27 pm
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South Africa   1

:smugface:



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zaij on April 09, 2012, 03:16:50 pm
I preordered today.

How much do you need to raise from sales less costs to get started on AoD2?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2012, 03:35:32 pm
I'd say we need to sell at least 10,000 copies to continue.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 09, 2012, 03:55:12 pm
9827 to go! Yay! :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on April 09, 2012, 05:11:31 pm
I'd say we need to sell at least 10,000 copies to continue.

Continue at all, or to go full time?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 09, 2012, 05:15:56 pm
Continue at all, or to go full time?

Spending 8 years on a game again is not really an option, so...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on April 09, 2012, 05:31:48 pm
Could $250000 possibly take you all that far?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 09, 2012, 05:37:41 pm
Come live in Ukraine, comrade, and see for yourself :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 09, 2012, 06:37:59 pm
Could $250000 possibly take you all that far?
We aren't trying to get rich here, otherwise we would have made something actiony. Didn't Torchlight sell a million copies?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on April 09, 2012, 06:47:02 pm
Could $250000 possibly take you all that far?
We aren't trying to get rich here, otherwise we would have made something actiony. Didn't Torchlight sell a million copies?

World of Decadence?  ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dicksmoker on April 09, 2012, 10:57:39 pm
So Vince, I'm assuming you can't just up and leave your current job though. How much notice would you need to give them if AOD sells well enough to let you work full time?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 10, 2012, 12:30:41 am
Come live in Ukraine, comrade, and see for yourself :)

(http://akislitsyn.ru/live_in_russia.jpg)

:commie: Союз нерушимый республик свободных :commie:
 :commie: Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. :commie:
 :commie: Да здравствует созданный волей народов :commie:
 :commie: Единый, могучий Советский Союз! :commie:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 10, 2012, 12:50:09 am
(http://akislitsyn.ru/live_in_russia.jpg)

Exactly. I could buy all that stuff and still would have 249,990$ remaining.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 10, 2012, 12:56:37 am
I'm assuming you're including the digital camera and the property upon which the picture is taken as well.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 10, 2012, 01:25:14 am
I'm assuming you're including the digital camera and the property upon which the picture is taken as well.

No, I got the camera from my grandfather, who brought it from Berlin in '45.
And the land belongs to peasants. Your capitalistic lack of education shows, you should start reading Lenin daily:
"Power to soviets. Peace to the nations. Land to peasants. Factories to workers."
Every good citizen should. That, and Linux manuals.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gregorus Prime on April 10, 2012, 01:27:59 am
Speaking of which, has MaximB ordered yet?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on April 10, 2012, 01:33:29 am
Speaking of which, has MaximB ordered yet?

I still have to swear on the Holy Bible Marx' works that we'll make a port, so probably not yet.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 10, 2012, 04:14:56 am
I'd say we need to sell at least 10,000 copies to continue.

Looking at the prorders, it will take quite a bit of PR (or an invitation to steam) to get there. And frankly (IMHO of course) I think you have no chance to get there if you don't offer a lower difficulty setting. This has been dismissed out of hand more times than I can count, and if it has been considered by forum members than usually as something like "Yeah, call it "pansy-mode" and let's insult players choosing it as much as possible during play, hur, hur!"

I'll say this once and then shut my mouth, but : THIS IS IDIOTIC! People who want to play your game are not the enemy! If even a significant portion of the Codex thinks the game is too difficult, you can not hope to sell 10000 units. All the balancing going on now will help, but it will not change the fact that for a large number of people that are interested in this game, playing at a difficulty level that was optimized for experts will not be fun, which leaves the diplomatic paths which do not have enough gameplay by themselves. At the same time you can not reduce the challenge globally, or your core audience (all 200 of them) will get bored.

In my opinion this game absolutely needs a difficulty setting, and I think you can get by with a very simple one: A bonus of 5, 10, 20 additional skillpoints at chargen. I have started a few playthroughs cheating myself a few bonus SP with the console, and frankly, I had more fun with that. People simply are different. So fuck them? That's usually the response, but I think it should be the goal of AoD to attract people to it's core design values, C&C, TB, Character skill driven, replay value. New people too, preferentially. Difficulty on the other hand is subjective, and should, to an extent, be in the control of the player. I like a difficulty level where I die the first time at a battle - but I like to be able to win it by adjusting my strategy, or maybe by loading an earlier save and adjusting how I spend my skillpoints a bit. I am happy to try 4 or 5 different things but then I get frustrated eventually. AoD, for me, requires far more investment, skilling several builds from the very beginning, and then maybe still dying 6 out of 10.
At the same time it can go the other way as well: There could be an extra difficulty level for people that want it, or extra challenges that people could do for bragging rights, like: - no crafting, no alchemy, no nets, "disabled" (-3 stat points), "blinded" (perception 4 playthrough), ironman, etc.. In a game that relies so heavily on replays and metagaming, you may as well embrace it.
BTW, a nice side effect of playing with extra skillpoints is that you actually generally have more choices (as more skillchecks becom visible).

I would really advise to do this in the next beta release, at least to see how it goes and what the feedback is.

 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fed on April 10, 2012, 04:35:41 am
Hi.
I'm noob and I'm from Russia. :neutral: So I apologize in advance if my question is dumb or selfish or whatever.

As a foreword. I pledged some money for Wasteland 2, but I'm still holding my breath to see if everything works right when the time comes to actually get this money moving from me to inXile.

I'd like to pre-order the Age of Decadence. But I really wouldn't like to register somewhere else and use an unfamiliar way to pay money.
The one way I'm familiar with is steam. It would be very nice if I could pre-order the game using steam (and get the beta there also).
I understand that steam is probably taking a cut of profits, but I see from the posts here that the method you offer is taking quite a lot too. And I saw/bought some indie games on steam too.
I also see that some of us russians did fugure out how to pay and paid. But I'm lazy and afraid to learn new ways to do things (and I believe these two are the core human qualities  >:D).

So is there (I guess there isn't; so the question really is - will there be?) a way to pre-order the game using steam?

P.S. Also being availible on steam kind of equals to some commercial because they have a lot of clients. If I understand it correct.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 04:46:07 am
It's not easy to get accepted on Steam, Fed. I've seen other indie games which have not been accepted. Unepic for example:

http://unepicgame.com/en/index.html (http://unepicgame.com/en/index.html)

And IMO it looked and played good.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 10, 2012, 04:49:40 am
To get a game on steam it has to be reviewed and accepted by steam, it is not an open platform - and they are known to be quite picky (E.g. Eschalon book 2, Din's curse, Frayed Knights all didn't get in, and Spiderweb games only after Avadon suddenly became popular on the iStore...). I doubt ITS have submitted it yet, and I would actually think it would be best if ITS waits at least for the next public beta iteration or two before they submit it. Once rejected, it probably would be very difficult to get a second chance.

If you have access to a credit card or paypal, the BMT micro thing really is very straightforward, if you ever ordered anything over the internet before.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 10, 2012, 04:58:59 am
:commie: Союз нерушимый республик свободных :commie:
 :commie: Сплотила навеки Великая Русь. :commie:
 :commie: Да здравствует созданный волей народов :commie:
 :commie: Единый, могучий Советский Союз! :commie:

The new anthem was adopted (the video content is irrelevant):
Koi kaze:- Carry my urn to Ukraine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8DU7w0JcR0#ws)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 10, 2012, 05:12:38 am
Perhaps GOG would be nicer than Steam, a better choice, regarding the "hardcore audience" they have?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fed on April 10, 2012, 05:19:22 am
Oh.  >:(
I thought they were just taking a cut... Now steam frustrates me. I saw (and even bought) some obviously shitty games there.

Yeah, I bought things over internet, but I always paid cash to a courier. Because it's easier.

Anyway, I'd like to know if ITS is going to try to get on steam. And when.
If they don't plan to try or get rejected,I guess I'll have to buy the game the way it will be possible. But I don't mind a little bit of waiting if that means evading the need to learn a new way to pay (even if it is easy). I am already registred in too many places to remember. (

2 Vahhabyte, I am yet to meet a person who knows at least a part of our new anthem. ) I know I don't.

EDIT: Oh, I see there is already a topic about steam. Sorry. Noob.  ::)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 05:35:24 am
You don't actually need to register with anyone. All you have to do is enter your details + credit card details and secure the order. It's not like paypal where you have to register an account with them and conclude any payments through it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 10, 2012, 07:30:37 am
Looking at the prorders, it will take quite a bit of PR (or an invitation to steam) to get there.
At this stage, pre-orders are a gesture of support, not an indicator of future sales.

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I'll say this once and then shut my mouth, but : THIS IS IDIOTIC!
Are you talking about the release difficulty or the current testers' build difficulty? With more skill points when you start the game and a shop, you can't possibly fail to kill the merc and assassin. I killed them both 3 out of 3 each with default stats. If anything, I'm embarrassed how easy it is (but don't worry, we're fixing it now).

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If even a significant portion of the Codex thinks the game is too difficult, you can not hope to sell 10000 units.
I know. If even the Codex is struggling, I can only imagine what Bethesda forumites will say.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1361800-age-of-decadence/ (http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1361800-age-of-decadence/)

"Alright, played until I died (Which was quick). First impressions: I'm rather impressed, especially considering it's an indie project. The graphics are outstanding (Like Neverwinter Nights, only much better), the animations fluid, the dialogue is well written and the music is nice. I didn't expect the combat to be on a grid and turn-based, but I enjoyed it. I decided to take up a potentially dangerous job and was ambushed by two thugs, who most definitely had the advantage over me in numbers and power. I died fairly quickly, though admittedly it took me a couple rounds to figure out what I was supposed to be doing.

I'll play a bit more later and post more feedback, but I'm pleasantly surprised so far. If this is the beta, I can't wait to see how in-depth and polished the final product is. :smile:

As an additional note, I'm glad to finally play an RPG where the first quest I undertake isn't extremely easy. I was in over my head for a change, and I was smiling when they dealt the finishing blow to me. Very refreshing. "

WHAT?! Refreshing? No. No, no, no. You're supposed to scream in rage and frustration! Don't you get it? It was the first fight, but instead of steam-rolling over your enemies, you got killed!

"Beat the demo with 5 out of the 8 available characters. I've gotten a hang of the combat now."

WHAT TRICKERY IS THIS?!!!

"I just played the demo and thought it was absolutely fantastic. ... This looks like it will be a very, very good rpg, and i will definitely be getting it."

Hmm...

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In my opinion this game absolutely needs a difficulty setting, and I think you can get by with a very simple one: A bonus of 5, 10, 20 additional skillpoints at chargen. I have started a few playthroughs cheating myself a few bonus SP with the console, and frankly, I had more fun with that. People simply are different. So fuck them? That's usually the response...
Fair enough. I'll see what we can do.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 10, 2012, 07:35:19 am
Make the difficulty slider a DLC  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 07:36:31 am
I've been maintaining that thread for 4 years, but it went over the post limit 2 weeks ago. There are more people interested in the game, they just posted in the other thread.

The community discussion section of the Beth forums are not really like the other ES/FO sections. If you read the 'what are your favourite games?' threads, you'll see a lot of members mention the old school RPGs like Fallout, Diablo, Arcanum, Planescape etc.

So yeah, don't turn your heads away from any forum, however futile it might seem.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 10, 2012, 07:42:53 am
I'm not (and I'm grateful for the effort). My point was that many Codex forumites aren't as hardcore as one might think.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 10, 2012, 07:49:44 am
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Are you talking about the release difficulty or the current testers' build difficulty? With more skill points when you start the game and a shop, you can't possibly fail to kill the merc and assassin. I killed them both 3 out of 3 each with default stats. If anything, I'm embarrassed how easy it is (but don't worry, we're fixing it now).


Doesn't matter - what I mean is that it is impossible to balance the game so that both me and Vahabyte, and Joe-I-loved-Fallout-10-years-ago-Schmoe will all be able to enjoy it. For some reason there is this hatred of difficulty settings and I don't get it. Now if you had done this from the beginning, relying on the difficulty slider, not caring about balance because Player-has-the-difficulty-slider, I agreee, that would have been very bad. But that's not the case. You have balanced it nicely for a specific group, now adding a difficulty setting will allow you to expand that group. I just don't believe it undermines your design - which seems to be the worry (IIRC earlier statements by the team).
I mean I am now slowly coming to the point where I start to have fun grinding myself on the most difficult battles, but I had half a year to practice on the more forgiving pre-public beta
builds.

And major :incline: at the Bethsoft forums or not, I think the feedback here and at the codex proves the point: People are different when it comes to the combat. Some grasp it quickly, make (either through doing the math, or somehow intuitively, or through having way more time to play around than others) the right choices for character building and tactics, and before long start clamoring that certain fights are too easy (rightly so). While others struggle to the point of frustration (rightly so). The latter is not necessarily about being spoiled or unwilling to invest time and thought, either (as my case at least should prove ;) ). And that's my point, you can't get around that, unless you have some mechanism to allow individual tuning of the difficulty (commonly known as difficulty setting).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximillionMiles on April 10, 2012, 09:06:13 am
And major :incline: at the Bethsoft forums or not, I think the feedback here and at the codex proves the point: People are different when it comes to the combat. Some grasp it quickly, make (either through doing the math, or somehow intuitively, or through having way more time to play around than others) the right choices for character building and tactics, and before long start clamoring that certain fights are too easy (rightly so). While others struggle to the point of frustration (rightly so). The latter is not necessarily about being spoiled or unwilling to invest time and thought, either (as my case at least should prove ;) ). And that's my point, you can't get around that, unless you have some mechanism to allow individual tuning of the difficulty (commonly known as difficulty setting).

Not that my opinion should matter, but for what it's worth: I don't mind being able to change the difficulty setting. There's nothing wrong with that as long as easy is not utterly without challenge. And maybe after going through the game on beginner mode they might even have learned enough to play it again on hardcore mode.

Ghan, you said you cheated some extra SP for yourself? How much, and did they make that much of a difference?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VentilatorOfDoom on April 10, 2012, 09:42:04 am
So, Nick is from Ukraine. Exactly like Skyway. What a coincidence.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on April 10, 2012, 10:05:30 am
People don't spend $25 on a game they know they can beat.





 ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DocHoliday on April 10, 2012, 11:33:42 am
Pre-ordering is up? Seems I'm late to the party.

I'm following this quite some time now and have great hopes for it.
So I've pledged 40 bucks to the cause so you can keep fighting the good fight. :salute:

What I wanted to add: Ghan has a valid point about the difficulty.

I didn't find the difficulty too hard at all, and towards the end of the demo I was pretty unstoppable. So after I read all the whining on different forums, my first reaction was: "those people are morans rofl".

But after a while I reconsidered this. It seems like the difficulty is, for whatever reason, really a show-stopper for some people. And we are not talking about some mainstream casual gamers but about people who one might consider the core audience for this kind of ‘traditional’ RPG.

Thing is it would be really nice if this game succeeded from a sales and financial perspective. It would keep ITS in business and show people that indie companies can come up with gaming concepts and worlds that are much more original and fun than the big publishers franchises AND be successful with that. Adding a difficulty slider will make it appeal to a much larger audience and would be really a small compromise in light of the potential benefits sales-wise.

Seeing you only got 167 supporters at the moment kind of got me thinking. I expected at least 1000+ actually. (this expectation is based on the huge amount of backing Shadowrun and Wasteland 2 got, without anything to show and AOD being in a similar vein of producing a 'traditional' RPG)

Anyway, these are just my 2cents of course.

tl;dr IMO Ghan is right with his ideas about difficulty settings and they deserve consideration.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 11:42:28 am
You can't really compare AoD devs to the Wasteland (and Shadowrun, but more so Wasteland) devs though. Vince and co. still need to release their first game, whilst the other devs I mentioned have been working on games for decades.

Seeing as this is a preorder on a beta version, I think around 300 people is actually pretty good, for this kind of game. And it's only been 7 days.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DocHoliday on April 10, 2012, 11:54:42 am
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You can't really compare AoD devs to the Wasteland

Yes of course, that's why I expected 1000+ not 10k+.
And ITS, while lacking the reputation of those devs, have been at AOD for 8 (8!) years as I undestand and have allready quite an interesting product to show which you can actually play.

Their actions so far have shown that they are the real deal and therefore deserve some credibility as devs.

But alas the numbers of supporters show that maybe less people are interessted in the game or ready to give cred to vince an co than I thought. Meh.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on April 10, 2012, 12:06:02 pm
I think the fact that there was a fairly big "marketing" push a long time ago for the game was what hurt it, if anything. In a way, I think it was a great thing for the team themselves in order to keep the development on point but people are also suckers for new things. The info for AoD has been spread out for a long time, you have had the previews by Vince/interviews a long time ago now, you had the combat demo a fair amount of time ago, now you have the beta for the demo, and it will still be a long while before the actual game is out.
Meanwhile, you have kickstarter which is the new thing in gaming, a big bandwagon that everyone is enormously eager to get on (creators and supporters), which seemingly (because we really don't know yet) opens up indie-gaming and a lot of new projects. Including games that can be very roughly put under the same banner as AoD (at least in terms of marketing speak, top-down view, turn-based, choices & consequences, old-school, blablabla).

That's how it stands *now* at least, but I am convinced that a lot of interest can still be generated when the full game is closer to release.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 10, 2012, 01:30:21 pm
Seeing you only got 167 supporters at the moment kind of got me thinking. I expected at least 1000+ actually. (this expectation is based on the huge amount of backing Shadowrun and Wasteland 2 got, without anything to show and AOD being in a similar vein of producing a 'traditional' RPG)
You underestimate the effect of license + well know professional developers.

Indie developers have to overcome the "if they were any good, they would have gotten jobs in *real* companies" stigmata.

Still, we're grateful for the support we've received so far because it's real. Each pre-order is a conscious decision to stand with us. Thanks.

Seeing as this is a preorder on a beta version, I think around 300 people is actually pretty good, for this kind of game. And it's only been 7 days.
300 would be nice.

Currently, we're at 181.

United States      48
Poland      13
Sweden       11
Germany      11
Russia      11
Australia      10
France      9
United Kingdom       9
Finland      9
Canada       8
Norway       6
Denmark      6
Brazil       3
Italy       3
Switzerland       3
Czech Republic      2
Estonia      2
Israel      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Croatia       1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 02:09:19 pm
That's 14 more people since yesterday. I hope this trend continues. :) You guys deserve it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 10, 2012, 02:36:41 pm
Add 1 from Turkey!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MidnightSun on April 10, 2012, 02:48:27 pm
Get Brian Fargo to tweet about this + have TotalBscuit do a WTF is..? = ??? = Profit?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VentilatorOfDoom on April 10, 2012, 02:49:58 pm
I gave 50€. I don't want a patron tag but my Edwin avatar would be nice.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 10, 2012, 02:50:17 pm
If TB makes a video on AoD it will definitely get some boost in preorders. Good shout MidnightSun.

I don't know about you guys but I've bought several indie games after seeing his youtube videos. They're usually 20mins long and give you a good feel about the game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 10, 2012, 03:43:12 pm
[Not that my opinion should matter, but for what it's worth: I don't mind being able to change the difficulty setting. There's nothing wrong with that as long as easy is not utterly without challenge. And maybe after going through the game on beginner mode they might even have learned enough to play it again on hardcore mode.
That would be my hope as well
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Ghan, you said you cheated some extra SP for yourself? How much, and did they make that much of a difference?
I gave myself e.g. 10 extra SP. Didn't exactly make the game a cakewalk, unsurprisingly. E.g. for a combat Praetor build I was recently experimenting with, that allowed me to get a little edge on the tough first fight (still needed the SP from the sidequests), yet I still had a few points to put in streetwise and etiquette, or other skills, for a bit of variety in the vignette and some sidequests. So not a huge difference, but I nice nudge into my comfort zone, so to speak.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on April 10, 2012, 04:13:45 pm
[Not that my opinion should matter, but for what it's worth: I don't mind being able to change the difficulty setting. There's nothing wrong with that as long as easy is not utterly without challenge. And maybe after going through the game on beginner mode they might even have learned enough to play it again on hardcore mode.
That would be my hope as well
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Ghan, you said you cheated some extra SP for yourself? How much, and did they make that much of a difference?
I gave myself e.g. 10 extra SP. Didn't exactly make the game a cakewalk, unsurprisingly. E.g. for a combat Praetor build I was recently experimenting with, that allowed me to get a little edge on the tough first fight (still needed the SP from the sidequests), yet I still had a few points to put in streetwise and etiquette, or other skills, for a bit of variety in the vignette and some sidequests. So not a huge difference, but I nice nudge into my comfort zone, so to speak.

I have another idea. Just keep the Townspersons not flagged as Teronites, and add a tip in the intro screen:
"Having a tough time? Try murdering some of the townspersons for extra SP. Gotta catch 'em all!"


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 10, 2012, 04:47:44 pm
We are waiting to release R2 before spreading the word some more.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MidnightSun on April 10, 2012, 05:51:48 pm
[Not that my opinion should matter, but for what it's worth: I don't mind being able to change the difficulty setting. There's nothing wrong with that as long as easy is not utterly without challenge. And maybe after going through the game on beginner mode they might even have learned enough to play it again on hardcore mode.
That would be my hope as well
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Ghan, you said you cheated some extra SP for yourself? How much, and did they make that much of a difference?
I gave myself e.g. 10 extra SP. Didn't exactly make the game a cakewalk, unsurprisingly. E.g. for a combat Praetor build I was recently experimenting with, that allowed me to get a little edge on the tough first fight (still needed the SP from the sidequests), yet I still had a few points to put in streetwise and etiquette, or other skills, for a bit of variety in the vignette and some sidequests. So not a huge difference, but I nice nudge into my comfort zone, so to speak.

I have another idea. Just keep the Townspersons not flagged as Teronites, and add a tip in the intro screen:
"Having a tough time? Try murdering some of the townspersons for extra SP. Gotta catch 'em all!"

I fully endorse this.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fed on April 11, 2012, 03:07:45 am
I have to say, it turned out to be really easy.
Took me a couple minutes.

But if I didn't sound my plights here, I would probably just sit and wait if ITS goes to steam.
Maybe it would be appropriate to state in the post about pre-ordering that the chances are that it would be an easy process that would only take a couple minutes and will not require to register somewhere.

And the talks about credit card are a little bit confusing. See, I don't have a credit card, by my debit card works like one. So when I hear about how easy it is to pay with a credit card, I don't associate myself with someone to whom this applies.

You might think that those extra clarifications are for stupid insecure bastards... But that's exactly what I'm talking about. I believe the humans in general (myself included) are stupid insecure bastards.  >:D And you have to take it into account.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Cautet on April 11, 2012, 04:04:23 am

...

I didn't find the difficulty too hard at all, and towards the end of the demo I was pretty unstoppable. So after I read all the whining on different forums, my first reaction was: "those people are morans rofl".
...

Seeing you only got 167 supporters at the moment kind of got me thinking. I expected at least 1000+ actually....
...

tl;dr IMO Ghan is right with his ideas about difficulty settings and they deserve consideration.


These things take time, there are many people out there (like me) that haven't put their money in yet but will do.

On difficulty no-one is saying this is the new Leather Goddess of Phobos or Lords of Midnight. You don't need to spend hours trying to figure out a mis-step with no Internet to go to for help. Nor do you need to spend two hours reloading the game from the start and trying to get the volume level on your tape recorder just right like just about every single 80's game.

Nor even is it like Dwarf Fortress (great game by the way and I think a good place to publicize AoD) where destroying your fort in ever most spectacular fashion seems to be the goal if you can ever get used to the worst UI in a game ever.

Simply put the difficulty main resides in the fact that in the beta there were slightly too few sps. Hardly a big deal really. Just that playing the game meant that certain side quests have to be farmed rather than played out how you would like an individual character to play them out. And that some quests (such as IG, thief) not just in terms of combat but for the thief in terms of balance of thief skills and combat ones that meant you needed to know what the minimum sp invested in say stealth was because 3 more in that and you would fail the traps bit later on and have a fight you couldn't win. Few more SP at the start meant you would have avoided that unless you put it all in something un-thief-like in which case it should be difficult.

The fight at the start as merc - You are in a small room with your paying customer dead (and unable to pay you) and  a loaded crossbow pointed at your chest. If you choose to fight that would be grounds enough for a silly fallout trait such as "Hot-headed - Some people can think clearly under pressure. You just kill everyone." or "Socially inept - Some people can talk their way out of any situation. You stab your way out." Either way it should be a punishingly hard fight.

tl;dr : great game. More people will put their money in no need to panic. No need to panic about difficulty either (nor to suggest people are stupid) - Betas are for testing things out on people. If no-one had anything they would want improved it would be much more worrying. But of course listening too much and taking too much to heart can be bad also. If people want changes in this day and age they can mod them.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on April 11, 2012, 04:32:38 am
[... ]Seeing you only got 167 supporters at the moment kind of got me thinking.  [...]

There are also some people (like me) who would love to contribute but simply can't afford to right now. But I'll be damned if I don't eventually get the forum tag, especially considering I was the one who formulated the title written on it. 8)

I personally don't need an easier difficulty setting, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Especially if the difference is going to be just a few SP at character creation. That would make starting out notably easier, but by the end of the game you shouldn't feel the difference.

Actually, now I think of it, you could implement a non-traditional difficulty setting. Instead of settings that progress from easy to hard you could implement a setting that gives you an initial boost, but makes your character weaker in the long run. Something like +20 SP at character creation, but -10% SP during the game. You can call it "beginner mode". And then to complement it, you could also throw in an ironman mode for the truly hardcore crowd.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Corvinus on April 11, 2012, 10:10:40 am
you could also throw in an ironman mode for the truly hardcore crowd.

Oh yes. :approve: :smug:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximB on April 11, 2012, 12:43:28 pm
Only recently I've discovered Kickstarter and Indiegogo, and this month I've pledged to 4 projects (about ~$155 which isn't so cheap here) thats my limit of pledges for this month.

Next month I plan to pledge for more...

So, sorry but I can't preorder this month, but it's not like AoD is going away...



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on April 11, 2012, 01:40:53 pm
Actually, now I think of it, you could implement a non-traditional difficulty setting. Instead of settings that progress from easy to hard you could implement a setting that gives you an initial boost, but makes your character weaker in the long run. Something like +20 SP at character creation, but -10% SP during the game. You can call it "beginner mode". And then to complement it, you could also throw in an ironman mode for the truly hardcore crowd.
Crippling your character in the long run is hardly a good idea - the main issue with the difficulty is that, even if you do manage to get past the first two fights after many reloads, it's scary to think that your character might simply become nonviable later on.
On the other hand, offering a simple choice between Easy (+20 SP) and Standard difficulty might be best. New players will have an easier time at the beginning, but the head start would simply disappear in the long run. And on subsequent playthroughs, players will likely choose Standard anyway, so they won't exploit the bonus to make master-of-all-trades characters.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: dyre on April 11, 2012, 03:21:15 pm
I've been dropping by this site for awhile. Great to see it's probably coming out next year. Pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Julius on April 12, 2012, 11:39:19 am
Pre-ordered, of course.  :salute:

How much are we at? 200? I expected more too. Gnnn.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 12, 2012, 11:43:39 am
Not yet, 190.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Herrsunk on April 13, 2012, 04:35:12 pm
Registered. Pre-ordered. Now get your keisters to work!

Me wants me some of that sweet Decadence! :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 13, 2012, 04:49:53 pm
Thank you, kind sir. You've single-handedly added Ireland to the list of enlightened countries.
:salute:

United States      51
Poland      14
Sweden       12
Germany      11
Russia      11
Australia      10
United Kingdom       10
Canada       10
France      9
Finland      9
Norway       7
Denmark      7
Brazil       3
Italy       3
Switzerland       3
Czech Republic      2
Estonia      2
Israel      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Croatia       1
Ireland       1
Turkey       1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mkbonde on April 13, 2012, 06:02:45 pm
I am kind of proud of Scandinavia right now (and I miss her..)  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Herrsunk on April 13, 2012, 06:35:15 pm
Thank you, kind sir. You've single-handedly added Ireland to the list of enlightened countries.
:salute:


Fantastic! Now if I only was Irish and not just living there...  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: skarai on April 15, 2012, 05:29:52 am
I don't preorder games but when it's released I'll buy it, day one.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: WorstUsernameEver on April 15, 2012, 01:29:37 pm
This is going to be open until the game comes out, right? I'm trying to clear my backlog and monitor my expenses, but I'd definitely like to become a patron of the motherfucking arts in the near future.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 15, 2012, 02:46:48 pm
Yes, it will be open.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: WorstUsernameEver on April 15, 2012, 03:38:35 pm
Cool, thanks for the reply Vince.  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Commissar Draco on April 16, 2012, 09:18:18 am
Pre ordered some time ago, can I pledge 5 US potato more and get tag? Also I am proud Potato countries are in the lead.  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 16, 2012, 10:47:35 am
The min is $25 and there is no way around it. Don't worry about it. We know that you're a true patriot.

Update: 198 pre-orders:

United States      52
Poland      14
Sweden       12
Germany      11
Russia      11
Australia      11
France      11
United Kingdom       10
Canada       10
Finland      9
Norway       7
Denmark      7
Brazil       3
Italy       3
Switzerland       3
Czech Republic      2
Estonia      2
Israel      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Croatia       1
Ireland       1
Turkey       1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Astrofaes on April 16, 2012, 11:36:09 am
$50 dollars ($62 with VAT) donated :smug:

Since I've invested in this game I demand:

1. Kinect support
2. The ending(s) added as a DLC
3. An action-oriented sequel

Also, happy to see that other swedes are caring about this wonderful project ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Munk on April 16, 2012, 11:53:00 am
Don't forget the romance options! :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Astrofaes on April 16, 2012, 11:56:23 am
Don't forget the romance options! :salute:

I couldn't imagine a great RPG without them :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Corvinus on April 16, 2012, 02:11:14 pm
Neither could I. I'm hoping that Feng will be among the romanceables. That would be extreme!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on April 16, 2012, 04:11:26 pm
Well, he fucks with you several times...

BTW, 199 pre-orders, only one more to reach 200 ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 16, 2012, 04:15:17 pm
Well, he fucks with you several times...

:\


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mkbonde on April 16, 2012, 07:55:27 pm
1. Kinect support
Don't forget the romance options! :salute:
:lol:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Monolith on April 19, 2012, 06:43:36 am
Gave 50 $ + VAT, which amounts to 50 €, which is about as much as I wanted to give.

It will appear as a Pre-order from Germany, but I live in Poland, so you should adjust the statistics accordingly.  :salute:

How long do we have to submit a filler NPC?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 19, 2012, 07:15:41 am
Thanks! As for the character, you have at least 6 months.

Update: 215 pre-orders.

United States      55
Poland      16
Sweden       14
Australia      12
Canada       12
France      12
Russia      12
United Kingdom       12
Germany      11
Finland      10
Denmark      7
Norway       7
Brazil       3
Czech Republic      3
Italy       3
Switzerland       3
Estonia      2
Israel      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Croatia       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Turkey       1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Keyser on April 19, 2012, 11:40:54 am
Even though I have only read and never posted before, I thought it was about time I showed my support. I love the beta and I preordered. Keep it up!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 19, 2012, 11:57:08 am
Thanks for your support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Micromegas on April 19, 2012, 06:55:30 pm
Hey, Italy should be at least at 4, since it was at 3 even before my pre-order.

Well, it doesn't reeeeeally matter.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 19, 2012, 07:10:51 pm
Was it? BMT shows 3 pre-orders, yours being the last. One from Roma, one from Massa, one from Lastra a Signa (looks like a lovely place).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Micromegas on April 19, 2012, 10:11:56 pm
Lastra a Signa

Yep, that's my place. Tuscany countryside, near Florence.  :)

BTW, I just checked my mail to see when my order was placed (April 10), but it seems that the same day you posted the list with already 3 orders from Italy. So I don't know if was me the first to place the order or you to post the list. But I sorta remember to have seen the list before placing the order. Maybe it is just a mindfuck of mine; don't wanna bother you for such a thing.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 23, 2012, 02:23:21 pm
5 new pre-orders in only 4 days, which brings us to 220!

2 from the United States, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Australia, 1 from Germany.

Thanks, guys. We appreciate the sentiment.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on April 23, 2012, 04:14:13 pm
At a rate of 1 preorder per day, you'll make millions by the time the game is released! :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ninjelephant on April 23, 2012, 04:58:49 pm
At a rate of 1 preorder per day, you'll make millions by the time the game is released! :P
:lol:
So when is the new version coming?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 23, 2012, 05:07:07 pm
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximillionMiles on April 23, 2012, 06:18:26 pm
Some people say that the amount of pre-orders is small, but actually I kind of disagree. Sure, when compared to the millions being poured into wasteland 2 it looks small, but last time I heard you had over 5000 bucks gathered, half of your minimum intended goal (10 000 - 15 000) and that was way back when there were 167 pre-orders. It's moving along nicely, if not at an explosive pace. So I suppose the occasional support will keep pouring in, slower than in the first few days, of course, but still there.

It's what many people forget, first day sales, first week box office, these aren't all. There are new people discovering AoD all the time. Or learning about it from their friends. Or remembering about it after all those years. And the best thing is that at least this time the profit from the game, both long and short-term, is all going back to the developers.

Although of course, all that being said, I wouldn't complain if suddenly hundreds of pre-orders rained on ITS  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kival on April 23, 2012, 06:23:12 pm
I think the disappointment is not so much regarding the actual amount of money (at least at the moment) but rather the low number of pre-orders. I think it would feel better to have 200 pre-orders of 20 $ instead auf 100 with 40 $ (just an example to explain what I mean).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on April 23, 2012, 06:39:31 pm
Yeah. And I think it's especially "apparent" now that everyone has kickstarter hard-ons. While AoD has something solid to show now, it has also taken a really long time to get to the point of getting this demo out and I think there are probably people rather wary of when, or even if (which would not make sense given how much work has been put into the game, but people don't think things through and have no idea how development works), the game will actually be out. And again, because Iron Tower has no prior track record.
And in a way, AoD is old news. Whereas the kickstarter fever and the Wastelands, the Shadowruns, the Banner Sagas, are all "new and exciting" and are *obviously*, without any question or doubt whatsoever, gonna save gaming as we know it. :smug:
We've read about AoD for a long time, it's taken a long time, lots of "it'll be done when it's done" comments. It's lost the "shine" it had way back when. I personally think this can be reinvigorated up to a point but I think it'd be wisest to save an eventual "PR push" with some more interviews and articles for when the game really is close to release and really just about finished. In the meanwhile, let the pre-orders trickle in from the people who catch whiff of it on forums and so forth.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 23, 2012, 07:13:28 pm
Excellent points, as usual.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Silellak on April 23, 2012, 08:47:00 pm
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting. 

Oh?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on April 23, 2012, 08:51:27 pm
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting. 

Oh?

Fingers crossed for noob mode.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on April 23, 2012, 08:52:58 pm
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting.  

Oh?

Fingers crossed for noob mode.

Maybe they're putting in "makes Vahabyte rage quit" mode :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on April 24, 2012, 02:54:20 am
I agree with what Starwars said. But I'd als use the release of the next demo update to drum up  some more attention. The RPG france interview was good, maybe it's possible to do another one in one of the english speaking sites you haven't done in the past?

A very simple thing that could be done is to have a direct linkt to the preorder page both on the demo's main menu screen and the "exit" splash screen, so people can jump to the preorder with just one click while/after playing.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 24, 2012, 03:51:53 am
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting. 
If you want to make the game easier, just add 10 GP at the beginning of Mercenary's vignette, that will do  :smug:
Or, make it a DLC.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ninjelephant on April 24, 2012, 07:20:32 am
I agree with what Starwars said. But I'd als use the release of the next demo update to drum up  some more attention.

Didn't Vince say (maybe even before the demo was out) that he would start advertising it much more once the first update is out? Which makes sense and should bring a good deal of new pre orders around.
Besides, I only made two combat playthroughs and have been waiting for new release since, it's possible that a lot of people is doing the same thing.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Grouiiik on April 24, 2012, 08:08:19 am
I discover you through the preview in CanardPc (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,226.msg85662.html#msg85662) and I loved the demo.

What could I do but pre-order ?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 24, 2012, 08:41:42 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dantess on April 25, 2012, 04:53:41 am
Another Canard!!!!

Hi IronTower Guys.
Thank you for your game.

I have 2 questions for you. I pre order Age of Decadence, and i wanted to know when i will received the download link.

I have pre ordered the 40$ edition, and i wanted to know if there is a deadline to send you the Filler Character.
Cause i want to play your game, know more about the background and create a character who fit to your world.

Thank you again.
See you


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 25, 2012, 06:12:05 am
AFAIK, you'll receive the download link as soon as the full game is released (2013), and as for filler NPC, no specific deadlines, any time before 2013 :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 25, 2012, 06:51:26 am
You should receive the download link the moment your order goes through. The zip file is a placeholder - when the game is ready, the content of the file (a 'thank you' note) will be replaced with the full game.

If you didn't get it, it's not a big deal. Each customer has a unique link and we can always retrieve it from your order. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 25, 2012, 07:09:08 am
Another Canard!!!!

Hi IronTower Guys.
Thank you for your game.

I have 2 questions for you. I pre order Age of Decadence, and i wanted to know when i will received the download link.
Thank you for your order. It shows as pending in the system, under 'orders that have not yet been charged' yet. When it goes through, you'll receive two emails from BMT Micro - your receipt and the download link and relevant info.

Quote
I have pre ordered the 40$ edition, and i wanted to know if there is a deadline to send you the Filler Character.
You have at least 6 months.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 25, 2012, 09:55:53 am
9 12 15 more patriots voted "Fuck yeah!", bringing the total to 229 232 235:

United States      63
Poland      16
France      15
Sweden       15
Australia      14
Germany      13
Canada       13
Russia      12
United Kingdom       12
Finland      10
Denmark      8
Norway       7
Italy       4
Brazil       3
Czech Republic      3
Israel      3
Switzerland       3
Estonia      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Croatia       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Turkey       1
United Arab Emirates      1





Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Claw on April 25, 2012, 02:38:15 pm
Almost there. Adding a difficulty setting. 
What exactly does that change?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 25, 2012, 03:38:18 pm
Change? Nothing. It adds a pre-made character - a battle-hardened veteran!

* * *

Selection text:

The Age of Decadence is a hard game for some players. Although combat may seem impossible, it’s merely challenging and takes awhile to master. Even a single opponent can be extremely challenging and a single mistake can prove fatal. Fortunately, many fights are optional and their difficulty can often be lowered via options available to your character.

So, if you up to the challenge, select the Normal difficulty, create your character and have fun mastering the system. Alternatively, you can click on the Awesome button and play the game with a pre-made character – a battle hardened veteran, well equipped to handle any challenge and make short work even of the most dangerous enemies.

* * *

Intro slide:

You arrived to Teron a few days ago. It greeted you with rows of crucified men that served as crude totems to keep the raiders away. Violence – your kind of language. You always were lucky when it came to killing folks, although a loremaster who did a reading claimed that you have a rare element of awesome in your blood, which kind of made sense to you. After all, you're clearly and undeniably awesome and other people just aren't.

When people asked you where you served and what exactly it was that you were a veteran of, you ignored them, hoping to pass for the strong, silent type. The truth was that somehow you weren’t entirely sure yourself. Perhaps it was your destiny that made you better than everyone else. You’ve always known that you were meant for great things and it would be awfully inconvenient if you kept dying in every fight, wouldn’t it?

So, you booked a room at the local inn hoping for a good night sleep. You were unfortunately awakened in the middle of the night by some ruckus. In a fit of rage, you stormed into a room next door and in the heat of an argument, you killed some trader, his bodyguard, and an assassin. The trader had a mysterious map on him and you were always a sucker for mystery. You grabbed it and went to the nearest loremaster.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: PrzeSzkoda on April 25, 2012, 03:43:41 pm
Change? Nothing. It adds a pre-made character - a battle-hardened veteran!

* * *

Selection text:

The Age of Decadence is a hard game for some players. Although combat may seem impossible, it’s merely challenging and takes awhile to master. Even a single opponent can be extremely challenging and a single mistake can prove fatal. Fortunately, many fights are optional and their difficulty can often be lowered via options available to your character.

So, if you up to the challenge, select the Normal difficulty, create your character and have fun mastering the system. Alternatively, you can click on the Awesome button and play the game with a pre-made character – a battle hardened veteran, well equipped to handle any challenge and make short work even of the most dangerous enemies.

* * *

Intro slide:

You arrived to Teron a few days ago. It greeted you with rows of crucified men that served as crude totems to keep the raiders away. Violence – your kind of language. You always were lucky when it came to killing folks, although a loremaster who did a reading claimed that you have a rare element of awesome in your blood, which kind of made sense to you. After all, you're clearly and undeniably awesome and other people just aren't.

When people asked you where you served and what exactly it was that you were a veteran of, you ignored them, hoping to pass for the strong, silent type. The truth was that somehow you weren’t entirely sure yourself. Perhaps it was your destiny that made you better than everyone else. You’ve always known that you were meant for great things and it would be awfully inconvenient if you kept dying in every fight, wouldn’t it?

So, you booked a room at the local inn hoping for a good night sleep. You were unfortunately awakened in the middle of the night by some ruckus. In a fit of rage, you stormed into a room next door and in the heat of an argument, you killed some trader, his bodyguard, and an assassin. The trader had a mysterious map on him and you were always a sucker for mystery. You grabbed it and went to the nearest loremaster.



This made me chuckle on an awful day.  :lol:

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on April 25, 2012, 09:00:48 pm
Huh.

What does 'pre-made' mean, exactly? Is it a fixed stat point distribution, or are even the skills pre-distributed?
Because, you ought to keep in mind that it's likely quite a number of players will choose this Easy setting, on their first playthrough at least, and it might be unwise to deny them the joy of character customization.

Wouldn't +20 skill points at the start do the job much more cleanly?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on April 26, 2012, 02:40:58 am
This (the veteran character) is actually both smart and funny and my dearest hope right now is it gets recognized elsewhere in the game (a la the Fallout "stupid" dialogue options, even if not to that extent).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on April 26, 2012, 03:09:34 am
I like the veteran character, an elegant solution with a bit of lulz thrown in :lol:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on April 26, 2012, 04:36:02 am
I still stand for the noob mode that insults you in every dialogue. ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on April 26, 2012, 05:02:47 am
No, this is already insulting enough. :lol: I don't see the point of going overboard with it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 26, 2012, 06:08:58 am
Just limit the content available to noob builds, and that's it.
The kids will grow and proceed to the next, original, difficulty level.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fed on April 26, 2012, 06:17:56 am
Just limit the content available to noob builds, and that's it.
The kids will grow and proceed to the next, original, difficulty level.
I don't think it's the way to go.
They will either like the game enough (and in the specific way) to play it again as it's meant to be, or not.
Playing the game on easy while understanding that you don't get all the supposed content will only bring pain and hate, not the desire to play the game again. Imo.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on April 26, 2012, 06:28:05 am
Well, just see it as the 'Training mode for beginners'.

BTW, it would be sooo awesome if there were an updated version of the Combat Demo.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: skarai on April 26, 2012, 06:49:58 am
Playing the game on easy while understanding that you don't get all the supposed content will only bring pain and hate, not the desire to play the game again. Imo.
Pain and hate? That's what they need to play it on normal, otherwise they won't be ready for it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on April 26, 2012, 06:55:29 am
Just limit the content available to noob builds, and that's it.
The kids will grow and proceed to the next, original, difficulty level.

If the premade character has low non-combat stats and skills, it would limit some of the content and give a reason for another playthrough...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fed on April 26, 2012, 07:32:25 am
Pain and hate? That's what they need to play it on normal, otherwise they won't be ready for it.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Probably it's the language barrier.
Could you please rephrase it?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 26, 2012, 07:50:18 am
No on-game references, comments, changes, etc.

A pre-made character is a perfect solution for my concerns about lower difficulty. The upside is that you get to play a much more skilled character - bonus to Swords, Block, and Critical Strike. The downside is that you can't customize the character, which should give you enough incentive to master the system and make your own character.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on April 26, 2012, 08:01:07 am
No on-game references, comments, changes, etc.

A pre-made character is a perfect solution for my concerns about lower difficulty. The upside is that you get to play a much more skilled character - bonus to Swords, Block, and Critical Strike. The downside is that you can't customize the character, which should give you enough incentive to master the system and make your own character.
Since mastering the system involves understanding how to create efficient characters, more so than getting used to combat, how exactly does a pre-made character help in this regard?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on April 26, 2012, 08:14:43 am
They show you an example of an efficient character. When I started beta testing I had some problems with the combat. Then I looked at a screenshot of one of Vahabyte's characters' stats and the next character I made was an unstoppable killing machine.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 26, 2012, 08:24:07 am
No on-game references, comments, changes, etc.

A pre-made character is a perfect solution for my concerns about lower difficulty. The upside is that you get to play a much more skilled character - bonus to Swords, Block, and Critical Strike. The downside is that you can't customize the character, which should give you enough incentive to master the system and make your own character.
Since mastering the system involves understanding how to create efficient characters, more so than getting used to combat, how exactly does a pre-made character help in this regard?
Mastering the system involves understanding the tools at your disposal.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: skarai on April 26, 2012, 08:44:37 am
Pain and hate? That's what they need to play it on normal, otherwise they won't be ready for it.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Probably it's the language barrier.
Could you please rephrase it?
I was just joking.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kemsa on April 27, 2012, 06:39:21 am
Never used paypal before.
When i choose $30, BMT shows total price as 36.90. But when i goto paypal it's $30 again.
Does the paypall add VAT later, or do i have to select $36.90 when i order?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on April 27, 2012, 06:52:37 am
Paypal should show you the gross and net amount. Are you sure there isn't

$30
$6.90
-------
$36.90

written on the side or on the bottom?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kemsa on April 27, 2012, 07:00:34 am
Don't i feel special now  :-[ sign me up for short bus.
It added it, but only after i actually logged in...

Anyway, preordered.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 27, 2012, 07:17:05 am
Thanks, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on April 27, 2012, 08:55:30 am
No on-game references, comments, changes, etc.

A pre-made character is a perfect solution for my concerns about lower difficulty. The upside is that you get to play a much more skilled character - bonus to Swords, Block, and Critical Strike. The downside is that you can't customize the character, which should give you enough incentive to master the system and make your own character.


Agreed on the solution, a little disappointed on no further in-game references Not because I want the game to make fun of people who choose the veteran, but because the vignette is genuinely funny (the description of the encounter with the merchant, bodyguard and assassin is hilarious) and I like the humorous parts of AoD best (for me, that's where game gets most of its distinct character from, moreso even than the mechanics).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on April 27, 2012, 10:32:30 am
I just realized the premade character has low Streetwise and starts the game by going to Feng.

You are awesome! You kill everyone and go to the loremaster. He tells you that the map is a legendary artifact and he also has another legendary artifact that goes along with it if you only pay him 100 gold. :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on April 27, 2012, 11:16:07 am
I just realized the premade character has low Streetwise and starts the game by going to Feng.

You are awesome! You kill everyone and go to the loremaster. He tells you that the map is a legendary artifact and he also has another legendary artifact that goes along with it if you only pay him 100 gold. :D

You're just that special.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on April 28, 2012, 04:41:25 am
Agreed on the solution, a little disappointed on no further in-game references Not because I want the game to make fun of people who choose the veteran, but because the vignette is genuinely funny (the description of the encounter with the merchant, bodyguard and assassin is hilarious) and I like the humorous parts of AoD best (for me, that's where game gets most of its distinct character from, moreso even than the mechanics).

1. [awesome] Grab his collar. "The prisoner. Hand him over."
2. [critical strike] "I have an important message for you!" Wait for him to come closer and attack.
3. "I'm here to negotiate."


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cb.spike on April 28, 2012, 05:32:59 am
If this was a kickstarter project awesome button and awesome dialog options would be a great idea for 2.1 million milestone.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: skarai on April 28, 2012, 07:59:45 am
They could say they need 500k to make this awesome button. Easy money.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Corvinus on April 29, 2012, 03:33:12 am
1. [awesome] Grab his collar. "The prisoner. Hand him over."

  :lol: :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 29, 2012, 09:41:56 am
No on-game references, comments, changes, etc.

A pre-made character is a perfect solution for my concerns about lower difficulty. The upside is that you get to play a much more skilled character - bonus to Swords, Block, and Critical Strike. The downside is that you can't customize the character, which should give you enough incentive to master the system and make your own character.


Agreed on the solution, a little disappointed on no further in-game references Not because I want the game to make fun of people who choose the veteran, but because the vignette is genuinely funny (the description of the encounter with the merchant, bodyguard and assassin is hilarious) and I like the humorous parts of AoD best (for me, that's where game gets most of its distinct character from, moreso even than the mechanics).
I like this idea more and more. I'll play with it after the current update.

Update: 240 bros are standing with us now!

United States      63
Poland      16
Canada       15
France      15
Sweden       15
Australia      14
Germany      13
United Kingdom       13
Russia      12
Finland      11
Denmark      8
Norway       7
Italy       5
Brazil       3
Czech Republic      3
Israel      3
Switzerland       3
Estonia      2
Netherlands      2
Spain       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Croatia       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
Turkey       1
United Arab Emirates      1



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on April 30, 2012, 02:03:25 pm
Looks like Germany has fallen behind. A motivational poster to the rescue!
Protip: Some sites block hotlinking images.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 30, 2012, 02:32:00 pm
My bad. Fixed. Thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on May 01, 2012, 02:22:21 am
Nazi imagery might be a great way to scare away potential german customers. Just sayin'...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 01, 2012, 02:42:22 am
Also, obviously, antifacists and Jews, like myself  >:(


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 01, 2012, 05:11:33 am
Propaganda posters (especially those of militaristic empires) are art, not political statements.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on May 01, 2012, 05:16:56 am
And people don't care. It's your call, just a warning.
 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 01, 2012, 05:18:36 am
Yes, father.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on May 01, 2012, 02:17:11 pm
Nazi imagery might be a great way to scare away potential german customers. Just sayin'...
:panic: :panic:

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Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on May 01, 2012, 02:30:39 pm
Nazi imagery might be a great way to scare away potential german customers. Just sayin'...
:panic: :panic:

(click to show/hide)
Yup, that's pretty much how it is :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 01, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
*was about to wage another holy war on Abrahamic religions, but changed his mind*


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on May 01, 2012, 05:55:01 pm
*was about to wage another holy war on Abrahamic religions, but changed his mind*

You got that from Nazi imagery?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on May 02, 2012, 03:18:29 am
*was about to wage another holy war on Abrahamic religions, but changed his mind*

You got that from Nazi imagery?

I'm confused, isn't Vahhabyte Jewish and Judaism an Abrahamic religion?

On topic though it's nice to see pre-orders continue to trickle through.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 02, 2012, 03:28:27 am
Come on, most modern post-Soviet ethnic Jews are atheists/agnostics/non-Judaists.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Executor on May 02, 2012, 03:45:10 am
Ah, makes sense now, I always forget to think of Judaism as an ethnicity (as well as a religion).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 02, 2012, 08:34:25 am
246 now, including our first order from India. Global reach +1.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on May 02, 2012, 08:58:32 am
Now we need some 日本人.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cardtrick on May 02, 2012, 11:47:37 pm
246 now

247 . . . (or more by now, hopefully).

I haven't had much time to play the beta yet, but I'm incredibly impressed with what I've seen, and even more impressed with all of you Iron Tower folks for your dedication to this project for so long. Thank you all for working so hard to bring something fun to the rest of us.

Hope everyone who's still around here from the old days is doing well! (The rest of ya'll new folks can go to . . . er, somewhere really pleasant and nice, seriously, it's great how there are always new fans.) I'm sorry I dropped off the face of the internet/earth a while back. It will very likely happen again, but I'll always be an AoD fan. Be with you in spirit every Thursday, etc., etc..


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on May 03, 2012, 04:30:15 am
Thanks, and nice to see you around.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dean101 on May 03, 2012, 05:17:29 am
Hey cardtrick, good to see you back in the old neighborhood. You were always one of my favorite posters. Hope you are doing well.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: John Yossarian on May 03, 2012, 08:36:30 am
Hey cardtrick, good to see you back in the old neighborhood. You were always one of my favorite posters. Hope you are doing well.
+1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Blessed on May 03, 2012, 10:43:33 am
after seeing the improvements made in R2, I felt it safe to bestow my preorder. I am looking very forward to the release of this game in the future, and hopefully alot more bugs will be ironed out. Gotta admit it was strange to see a random +1 enemy in the bandit camp sometimes, less this be intentional.

Great improvements on dodge by the way!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 03, 2012, 11:42:47 am
Thanks. It brings us to 255 pre-orders.

Edit: 256 now - we have officially reached Turkey now. This internet thing is awesome.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Starwars on May 03, 2012, 03:17:54 pm
Looks like it's marching along at a steady pace. Soon you'll be able to give Oscar, Nick, Ivan and the others something else besides Vodka to numb their pain.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on May 03, 2012, 03:44:29 pm
Or just more Vodka. That Caribbean cruise isn't going to pay for itself.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 03, 2012, 03:46:09 pm
Indeed. Why fix what isn't broken?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Frankiesmileshow on May 04, 2012, 07:58:40 pm
Heyy. just bought that thing! Itsdone.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Blindsight on May 05, 2012, 03:27:01 pm
Order placed. Keep up the good fight.  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 05, 2012, 08:46:32 pm
Thank you for your patronage. It brings us to 267 pre-orders:

United States      73
Canada       18
France      17
Poland      17
United Kingdom       16
Australia      15
Sweden       15
Germany      14
Finland      12
Russia      12
Denmark      8
Norway       7
Italy       5
Israel      4
Brazil       3
Czech Republic      3
Netherlands      3
Spain       3
Switzerland       3
Estonia      2
Turkey       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Croatia       1
India       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Claw on May 06, 2012, 05:35:19 am
Pretty disappointing showing of my Fatherland.

Also, no Austria? Are they really such colossal douchebags or do they count as Germans?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 06, 2012, 05:39:23 am
No Austria.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: John Yossarian on May 06, 2012, 03:55:54 pm
HEY, canary islands ispart of spain dude. One of the few places that doesn't wanna break off from spain to boot.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on May 07, 2012, 04:52:29 am
Thank you for your patronage. It brings us to 267 pre-orders:

United States      73
Canada       18
France      17
Poland      17
United Kingdom       16
Australia      15
Sweden       15
Germany      14
Finland      12
Russia      12
Denmark      8
Norway       7
Italy       5
Israel      4
Brazil       3
Czech Republic      3
Netherlands      3
Spain       3
Switzerland       3
Estonia      2
Turkey       2
Ukraine       2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Croatia       1
India       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


For a better idea of which countries are pulling their weight in patronage, here's some population relative numbers:

AOD pre-orders per 10,000,000 head of population (minimum of 5 pre-orders).

Finland      22.37
Sweden       15.99
Denmark      14.42
Norway       14.33
Australia        6.72
Canada         5.29
Poland        4.45
France        2.62
United Kingdom   2.57
United States      2.34
Germany        1.71
Russia        0.85
Italy                 0.66

Based on these numbers, Iron Tower must do something special for the Nordic releases. Those guys are punching well above their weight.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 07, 2012, 05:18:28 am
 :lol:
Perhaps Nordic folks are just fucking rich and care a lot about supporting arts and copyrights, and more people use internet there?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 07, 2012, 08:55:07 am
HEY, canary islands ispart of spain dude. One of the few places that doesn't wanna break off from spain to boot.
According to BMT, it's a country.

Based on these numbers, Iron Tower must do something special for the Nordic releases. Those guys are punching well above their weight.
True bros.  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 07, 2012, 08:59:40 am
:lol:
Perhaps Nordic folks are just fucking rich ...
Of course they are fucking rich. When they start running out of money, they just go and get some more...

(http://www.marineinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/VikingShip.jpg)



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 07, 2012, 09:04:42 am
 ;)
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Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Black_Corsair on May 07, 2012, 10:08:32 am
Hello guys from the russian interpreter of your site :))


Have you plans to launch AoD sales through steam in future?

I have a nice collection of games there already, because steam provides auto updates for all your games and so on - very convenient.
That's why i m asking this.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on May 07, 2012, 10:34:06 am
Depends more on Steam than us.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 07, 2012, 10:36:25 am
Have you plans to launch AoD sales through steam in future?
We're planning to approach Steam and see if they are interested. Two other portals have already expressed their interest, and we'd definitely like to reach as many people as possible.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Black_Corsair on May 07, 2012, 11:32:47 am
oh, thanks a lot for answer, i think i will wait till steam release (or till the full version of game, if steam not sell AoD)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 09, 2012, 09:03:58 am
Got 9 more orders in the last few days - US, France, Croatia, Hungary, Sweden, Denmark, Spain.

276 now. Thanks, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on May 09, 2012, 09:21:30 am
Closing in on 300

WE! ARE! SPARTA!!!



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sorhin on May 09, 2012, 10:26:29 am
Impressed by all the fellow Scandinavians!


Vikings ftw! 8)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: WorstUsernameEver on May 09, 2012, 11:01:27 am
Closing in on 300

WE! ARE! SPARTA!!!



B-But I don't want to be a pedophile glorified murderer D:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: PrzeSzkoda on May 09, 2012, 12:52:49 pm
Closing in on 300

WE! ARE! SPARTA!!!



B-But I don't want to be a pedophile glorified murderer D:

Think of it as old-school pederasty and then it's all good.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on May 09, 2012, 01:15:21 pm
Closing in on 300

WE! ARE! SPARTA!!!



B-But I don't want to be a pedophile glorified murderer D:

Step aside then, I'll wear that title myself!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sina on May 10, 2012, 05:33:50 pm
Thank you for your order from BMT Micro Inc!

Your order has been successfully received and is being processed at this moment.   Once your order is processed, you will receive product registration information at the following email address: *************


Hope it works this time or I am going to stop using credit cards


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 10, 2012, 06:13:10 pm
Thanks, Sina.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sina on May 10, 2012, 06:31:44 pm
No I thank you (plural you) for the great game :p


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dhalgren on May 11, 2012, 02:12:38 pm
I've been following AoD for, welp, ages.  The demo made me happy, so I'm in for a pre-order (as of a couple weeks ago).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sina on May 11, 2012, 03:29:13 pm
Finally it is done :p

for a split second though, I have to admit that I thought there was the full game in the zip file :D

I am glad it wasnt the case as I have lots of things to do right now :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: TormDK on May 11, 2012, 03:59:24 pm
Hey guys - I just read the article on RockPaperShotgun, and I've already decided that the world needs more of these kinds of games, so I just had to preorder right away :)




Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 11, 2012, 04:05:42 pm
Thanks. Hope you tried the demo first (just to be sure).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: TormDK on May 11, 2012, 04:10:33 pm
Thanks. Hope you tried the demo first (just to be sure).

Didn't, but it is downloading now.

I read that the combat is unforgiving and your story is well written so it is likely money well spent :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 11, 2012, 04:22:22 pm
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Reihar on May 12, 2012, 06:56:46 am
I played the demo and now I really want to pre-order the game but I have a question first : if you make a Linux version would it be available to people who already bought the game or would it be totally separated ?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 12, 2012, 08:28:28 am
It will be available to everyone who pre-ordered/bought the game. Basically, you pay once and get access to all available versions.

HOWEVER, I can't promise that there will be a linux (or any other version) version. It's up to Torque, not us. We definitely want to, because it opens up another market, but if Torque refuses to go along, we will move on and start working on the next project instead.


Edit:

306 bros, gentlemen, scholars, connoisseurs, and a whole lot of hard men from the north are standing with us!

United States      82
France      21
Canada       19
United Kingdom       19
Poland      17
Australia      16
Germany      16
Sweden       16
Russia      13
Finland      12
Denmark      11
Norway       9
Italy       7
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Netherlands      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Switzerland       3
Turkey       3
Croatia       2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Ukraine       2
Belgium      1
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
China      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pastel on May 12, 2012, 10:15:03 am
Someone finally got Romania on the list, huzzah!  :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: PrzeSzkoda on May 14, 2012, 08:09:40 am
My Linux-nerd BRO says that it should be possible to whip up a quasi-Linux version of the game by embedding Wine into the build, like the GOG guys do with DosBox. Google did something like this with Picasa: "For Linux, Google has bundled Wine with the Windows version to create an installation package rather than write a native Linux version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa)" (though they did throw some monies at the Wine project for it to work good enough.) It could be worth looking into such an option, maybe.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: MaximB on May 15, 2012, 03:16:48 pm
My Linux-nerd BRO says that it should be possible to whip up a quasi-Linux version of the game by embedding Wine into the build, like the GOG guys do with DosBox. Google did something like this with Picasa: "For Linux, Google has bundled Wine with the Windows version to create an installation package rather than write a native Linux version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa)" (though they did throw some monies at the Wine project for it to work good enough.) It could be worth looking into such an option, maybe.

Wine embedding is a bad choice (last choice), I know a person (Torque expert) who says that it's very possible to port T3D games to Linux and that he will port his T3D game when finished (Xenocell).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: CoarseDragon on May 17, 2012, 01:55:26 pm
I tried out the demo and found the game to be really enjoyable so I pre-ordered at $45.00 because I have a character in mind to add to the game if you are still doing that. Please let me know and if you are still  accepting characters and let me know who to contact

An Assassin's work is never done.
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Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on May 17, 2012, 01:59:17 pm
Hi and welcome to the sect. Yes, they are, until early 2013, I guess.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 17, 2012, 02:50:14 pm
Please let me know and if you are still  accepting characters and let me know who to contact
We certainly are. Email or PM me.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2012, 03:16:03 pm
I tried out the demo and found the game to be really enjoyable so I pre-ordered at $45.00 because I have a character in mind to add to the game if you are still doing that. Please let me know and if you are still  accepting characters and let me know who to contact

An Assassin's work is never done.
(click to show/hide)

Thanks!
Also, PM me your real name, if you'd like a badge =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: CoarseDragon on May 17, 2012, 04:23:55 pm


Please let me know and if you are still  accepting characters and let me know who to contact

We certainly are. Email or PM me.


Thanks, I have something on the way.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 20, 2012, 09:06:15 am
313:

United States      84
France      21
United Kingdom       20
Canada       19
Australia      18
Poland      18
Germany      16
Sweden       16
Russia      14
Finland      12
Denmark      11
Norway       9
Italy       7
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Netherlands      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Switzerland       3
Turkey       3
Croatia       2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Ukraine       2
Belgium      1
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
China      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ninjelephant on May 20, 2012, 10:06:20 am
Quote
If you "eat" now a part of what you could earn when the game will be launch, it will have an impact on the previsionnal full game's benefits?What you earn today will not be earn next year?
I'm quite sure you had think about that.So is there a part from the pre-order benifits that goes now for the incoming project?
I hope to raise $10-15,000 in pre-orders. It's not an unreasonable amount. I doubt we'll raise more.

Did you hit the $10,000 mark yet?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 20, 2012, 11:05:16 am
$9,560.50


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on May 20, 2012, 11:13:35 am
What was the "we need this to create another game" revenue figure again?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: likaq on May 20, 2012, 11:55:31 am
minimum ~15k  copies sold in first 3 months after release afaik. I could be wrong ofc.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Elthosian on May 29, 2012, 09:46:46 pm
Just pre-ordered the game, if that list that was on the last page is still valid, then I am the first Colombian pre-orderer, yayz!

But... I hope you don't think I am stupid, but for some reason I was stupid and put 25 instead of 30 as I planned to do, can I do an extra payment for the 5 dollars or is it impossible now?

Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Hormiga Culona on May 30, 2012, 01:35:11 am
If it matters, -1 US and +1 Chile.

I'd have used my Swiss account, but the bank's whining about all this 'transparency' and 'legitimacy' regulation interfering with the 'ol laundromat.

Glad to see the numbers going up.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 30, 2012, 06:03:13 am
Just pre-ordered the game, if that list that was on the last page is still valid, then I am the first Colombian pre-orderer, yayz!

But... I hope you don't think I am stupid, but for some reason I was stupid and put 25 instead of 30 as I planned to do, can I do an extra payment for the 5 dollars or is it impossible now?
I believe it's impossible. Thank you anyway.

If it matters, -1 US and +1 Chile.
Done.

Update: 323 pre-orders - $9,786.70

United States      84
France      22
United Kingdom       20
Australia      19
Canada       19
Poland      18
Sweden       18
Germany      17
Russia      15
Finland      12
Denmark      11
Norway       9
Italy       7
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Netherlands      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Switzerland       3
Turkey       3
Ukraine       3
Croatia       2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Belgium      1
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1

Edit: +1 for Norway!



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Elthosian on May 30, 2012, 04:47:37 pm


Oh, well, then I will be sure to put 30 bucks instead of 25 when we are able to preorder the boxed copies =P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: krist2 on June 02, 2012, 01:10:12 am
+1 more for Norway  :)
Donated $50, just wanted to support, dont need the medal or character ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on June 02, 2012, 05:06:07 am
Thanks! We will pay you back with enjoyment =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Olero on June 06, 2012, 12:46:04 pm
Pre-ordered! (aka +1 for The Netherlands? :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 06, 2012, 01:13:00 pm
Thanks a bunch, Olero. The latest count is 337:

United States      85
France      22
Australia      20
Canada       20
United Kingdom       20
Germany      19
Poland      18
Sweden       18
Russia      16
Finland      13
Denmark      11
Norway       11
Italy       8
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Turkey       3
Ukraine       3
Croatia       2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Belgium      1
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Alasher on June 08, 2012, 08:48:44 am
Go Ukraine go! (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5Hut1Hs1Mk_7NIdSae-cF5HpMtflLRRa6EwCGKWgYO0l8sK1j) :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on June 08, 2012, 09:22:55 am
:козацький brofist:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mkbonde on June 08, 2012, 10:19:42 am
The numbers are still very disappointing compared to the massive support for Dead State. Of course the major PR push hasn't come yet, but I wonder if a opening a Kickstarter at some point might be worth pursuing simply for the added exposure.. Good luck with the final grind to the finish line!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on June 08, 2012, 11:15:58 am
The situation is different mkbonde. Just a couple of factors:

-Brian is an accomplished game dev (well, writer etc, but still, quite well known in the gaming world). Oscar/Nick/Ivan/Vince are working on their first game.
-The type of game: zombie RPG, was/is quite in demand, more than the type of RPG AoD is.
-Work on the game had only started last year, perhaps a bit earlier than that, before the kickstarter route was taken. AoD has been in development for years. Although there have been games on kickstarter who decided to raise funds at the end of their project.

Not that a kickstarter/any fund-raiser wouldn't be successful for AoD, but I highly doubt it would be met with the same enthusiasm on kickstarter.

I can only hope that when AoD is released Vince and co. make enough sales to compensate them for all their hard work, and when the time comes for a new game (assuming the game sells well enough), they will use all what they've learned in these past years to their advantage to garner more interest.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 08, 2012, 12:52:09 pm
It's not about being compensated. It may sound like a cliche, but working on the game and chatting with you guys have been rewarding enough. Even if I get nothing, I won't regret the experience.

It's about being able to do it full time going forward. It's about getting enough support from the hardcore gamers.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on June 08, 2012, 12:54:53 pm
Well, that's nice to hear. :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vex on June 08, 2012, 04:39:50 pm
And that's another sale from Germany.

Of course I didn't figure out that you'd have to set the actual prize manually, but considering that due to a sales tax that wasn't mentioned anywhere I actually paid 32$ in conversion from €uro...

Oh well. I originally wanted a story-character too. I'll convince someone else to pre-order the game for 40$ then...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 08, 2012, 05:23:26 pm
Thanks.

To clarify, the sales tax is a European Union thing. From BMT Micro:

"The European Union passed a law requiring VAT on Electronically supplied services in 2003.   This includes any downloadable product.   BMT Micro is registered with the UK and assesses VAT based on the country in which the customer resides according to regulations.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120128212010/http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageOnlineServices_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000914&propertyType=document (http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120128212010/http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageOnlineServices_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000914&propertyType=document)
..."

So, it doesn't go to us. BMT keeps the tax and gives to the EU and the EU uses it to bail out banks. It's a win/win.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mkbonde on June 08, 2012, 06:01:16 pm
yay.. Also it depends on what credit card you use to pay rather than location (obvious), although I am pretty sure that the EU (Denmark) had no right to charge me VAT as I pre-ordered while living in Hong Kong..

@ Anonxeuix
I've been following for quite a lot of years now ;) And get he reasons they are not doing a kickstarter. I just wonder if it is within the rules to create a Kickstarter with a $0 funding goal simply for the free publicity.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 08, 2012, 06:06:15 pm
That would be cheating.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on June 09, 2012, 09:58:30 am
The situation is different mkbonde. Just a couple of factors:

-Brian is an accomplished game dev (well, writer etc, but still, quite well known in the gaming world). Oscar/Nick/Ivan/Vince are working on their first game.
-The type of game: zombie RPG, was/is quite in demand, more than the type of RPG AoD is.
-Work on the game had only started last year, perhaps a bit earlier than that, before the kickstarter route was taken. AoD has been in development for years. Although there have been games on kickstarter who decided to raise funds at the end of their project.

Not that a kickstarter/any fund-raiser wouldn't be successful for AoD, but I highly doubt it would be met with the same enthusiasm on kickstarter.

I can only hope that when AoD is released Vince and co. make enough sales to compensate them for all their hard work, and when the time comes for a new game (assuming the game sells well enough), they will use all what they've learned in these past years to their advantage to garner more interest.

There's another factor you're forgetting. It's easier to sell people on a dream of a thing, than the thing itself. It's easier for Brian Fargo to sell you your idea of what Wasteland 2 could be, rather than what it will be. Because, while it's still a concept, it's easy to imagine it as the best possible version of what it could be.

When you give people a tangible product, then comes the criticism, and the possibility of disappointment. In fact, it's inevitable that some people will be disappointed, especially if they've hyped themselves into a frenzy beforehand. You're never going to make everyone happy with the finished product. But the dream...well, everyone has their own dream, and in that dream it looks so great...

I'm really excited for Dishonoured. But will it match my expectations, when I finally play it?

What will Wasteland 2 actually be like? Maybe the combat will be cludgy. Maybe the skill system will feel unbalanced. Maybe some people will find combat too hard, or not challenging enough. Maybe you won't like the writing. Maybe the text on the UI will be too small. Maybe you'll have video card issues that result in crashes to the desktop regularly. Maybe it just won't feel fun, in some subtle way. Who knows? But right now, people aren't making purchasing decisions on KS based around evaluating how the game actually plays, hands on, but how they imagine it could play.

You don't have to worry about that when you're selling someone on the potential of an idea. This is why demos have gone out of vogue in the mainstream, and they prefer to just use hype videos and push incentives on people to buy-before-they-try.

We're in an interesting phase, with Kickstarter. None of these game projects have delivered anything tangible yet. So there's no experience of disappointment, no build-up of cynicism, no caution. Just exuberance and unbridled hope. When the mainstream industry shows videos that look cool, we're cautious. We've been burned before. We take a "wait and see" approach. We hold back until the demo, or see what other players report. We remember past games that seemed promising but turned out to be duds.

Until some of these KS projects actually deliver, we're all still in dream land here.

AoD is in a different position. It's not floating in the clouds of ideal imagination. It's not saying "hey, here's the current build of the game but remember, it's still a WIP and we're still gonna add lots of stuff!" They're saying "This is it. This is what we built. This represents the final gameplay, we hope you like it enough to buy."

I remember a time when AoD generated that same unreserved enthusiasm amoungst old-school fans, especially on places like the Codex. That changed when they actually, you know, gave people the product to play with. Some people still love it, no doubt, but that unreserved enthusiasm doesn't tend to survive contact with reality.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 09, 2012, 10:15:27 am
My sentiments exactly.

Here is an interesting post:

"I'd disagree that AoD is an old-school RPG (which, I understand, means the likes of Dungeon Master, Might and Magic etc- essentially dungeon crawlers).

To me it's an attempt at a new-school true RPG, made in opposition to all the bullshit going on with the A"RPGs" based on mindless cakewalk filler combat and cinematic cutscenes.

The premise was my dream come true- an open-world game allowing you to seamlessly choose between combat, stealth and diplomacy. My personal opinion however is that it fails to realize this goal.

The combat is very good and engaging, obviously the hardest and most fun part of the game. Probably the only problem is how static it is- unlike for example the Witcher 2 arena mode, with its emphasis on footwork, circling and dodging. Here you just stand in place and choose your attacks, then move over to the next enemy. All the rest I've found pretty enjoyable (bar minor nitpicks).

The stealth part takes the form of choose-your-own-adventure stories with in-engine static illustrations. Vince (the main dev) admitted they lacked the resources to make a full-fledged stealth gameplay (like say, an RPG version of Thief). I accept these terms but admit that I found the stealth parts completely unengaging.

The diplomacy is... a tough nut to crack. The dialogues themselves are masterfully crafted, the NPCs are full of personality, have their own goals and values. That's great! I'd go as far as saying the dialogues are closer to Planescape Torment than any other game I've played. However the diplomacy gameplay itself is also a non-gameplay. Pretty much the only gamey element of it is choosing the skill in which you invest. The rest is just picking the clearly labeled persuasion/trade/lying etc options in the dialogue. In most cases there is no challenge to it, you just watch the dialogues unfold (and get to pick other options if you the ones you chose prove ineffective). Again, these are just my extremely high expectations speaking- the diplomacy may still turn out to be your favourite part of the game.

The quests are branching and you get to choose between many paths and solutions, so there's obviously freedom here. I'm also extremely happy with how there's absolutely no filler combat here- just hand-crafted challenging situations. The setting is also very interesting, yes.

Overall I really recommend the demo to anyone who is tired with contemporary aRPGs- it is a truly refreshing experience. "

Basically, the guy liked everything about the game - combat, setting, writing, characters, text-adventures. The problem is, he wanted the game to be so much more. He imagined that it would be so much more (even though we've never promised more than we delivered).



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on June 09, 2012, 03:13:03 pm
The difference in appeal between the "limitless possibility" (as Tim Schafer called it in their documentary) of a not-so-clearly defined project such as the Double Fine Adventure and a concrete tangible realization such as the AoD demo is of course there, but I'd say it's actually rather unimportant if we were to compare the Dead State KS (which is a lot more specific about the actual game than either Double Fine or InXile; nowhere near the "oh my, this could be exactly the game I dream of" territory) to a hypothetical AoD KS. The potential is actually very similar for both, there is a big audience overlap (and the games were also covered largely by the exact same media) and the one thing which Dead State has and AoD doesn't (Brian and Annie's past involvement in big name projects) is extremely downplayed in the Dead State presentation. Plus, there are problems unique to Dead State, such as people being burnt out on the zombie genre, the largely negative reaction to the 2D art and UI, the "radio silence" period in development, the clumsy handling of tiers (especially the all-important $30 tier) and stretch goals. It still works, which I personally couldn't be happier about, but it's certainly not as if Dead State was a diametrically different case, in my opinion at least.

Vince has his reasons for not going the KS route and I completely respect that, but I think it's pretty obvious that had he opted to, AoD would easily make 10 times the amount that the current pre-orders brought in and beyond (compare for instance Legends of Eisenwald, where the team got their first coverage ever during the KS campaign -- on the RPG Codex of all places). This of course does not mean that the money is lost: much (most?) of it will simply translate to actual sales once the game is released. What I'd really like to know is exactly how much potential revenue is lost by a) not using KS as a marketing platform that allows you to reach people who will otherwise never learn about your game at all, and b) not taking full advantage of the higher tiers system; that is however very difficult to estimate.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on June 09, 2012, 07:23:38 pm
Quote
I'd say it's actually rather unimportant if we were to compare the Dead State KS (which is a lot more specific about the actual game than either Double Fine or InXile; nowhere near the "oh my, this could be exactly the game I dream of" territory) to a hypothetical AoD KS. The potential is actually very similar for both,

I wasn't saying that people were thinking "oh my, this could be exactly the <generic game> I dream of!". I was saying they were thinking "oh my, this could be exactly the turn-based, zombie RPG I dream of!"

It doesn't matter how clearly the video describes the game's features, it's just a video. There's a giant difference between watching a video and playing a demo.

A five minute video is as reliable a demonstration of the end quality of a game as a 5 minute movie trailer is a reliable depiction of the quality of a movie : in other words, not particularly.

I've watched a ton of game videos showing gameplay and features in my life. And I've been disappointed by the reality of playing those games more times than I can count. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised, but often not. It's not the same as playing bro, not even close.

Until the game is in players' hands, it exists in that "possibility space" of implementations. No matter how specific the video, it's still just describing a range of possible outcomes, from a version of Dead State that is broken and sucky, to a version that is a glorious ubergame. Obviously, we are all hoping for the second option. ;) And people are willing to put their money behind that hope.

It's like Schrodinger's cat. While the box is unopened, the cat could be alive or dead, you cannot know. Once you open the box, you collapse the possibilities into one definite state, one reality.

While a game is in the conceptual stage, the actual end product could range from poor to great. Once you get your hands on the game, that possibility collapses into a reality that lies somewhere on the range between dogshit and absolute perfection.

AoD has collapsed the possibilities. It's a real thing. There is no room to imagine it being different, no wiggle room for the imagination. It is what it is. Some people like it, some people don't. Unless Vince wants to rewrite huge chunks of the game, he's not gonna win over the dudes who are upset about the stuff he mentioned above, for example.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on June 10, 2012, 12:48:24 am
Xenonoauts has a demo too, and it is doing rather well. I know, I know different case, "remake" of a very popular classic... But you know, every game is different, it's always a risk. I think the additional PR and, maybe binding more people into the AoD community would have been positive effects, at least. Meh, but I'm done with this topic


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on June 10, 2012, 02:29:49 am
They didn't claim Xenonauts "demo" was finished or representative of the end product, only a WIP. That's not a real demo dudes, that's more like a pre-alpha.

From their page :

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There's still plenty of work to do done on the game, a lot to do with the interface and usability, but we hope it is advanced enough for you to see what we are shooting for for the final game!

We have raised enough money through our existing pre-order system to finish the game, but there are a lot of cool little touches that we want to implement but we simply don't have the resources to justify spending our time on.

It's difficult to say exactly what additional features would end up in the final game, because sometimes new features don't work very well and have to be removed again. But these are some of the ideas we'd like to explore:

New UI
Animated battlefield tiles
High quality research-screen art
Combat suppression mechanics
Soldier medal system
Battlefield motion detector
UI art updating to reflect game progress
Intro / Outro movie (in the monochrome painted style of the Homeworld cutscenes)
Encouragement for modders (eg. our Soviet Weapons pack)

It will let us experiment with the cool ideas listed above (amongst others)

OK, time for a new update! This one will explain in detail what new features have already been confirmed for the game, and allow you to vote on the stretch goals!

First, I need to stress that the demo on our page is an alpha version of the game. There are several major elements which are not in it, but have always been planned.

The map randomisation code is already functional, but level design is time consuming so we’ve not put too much time into it yet. There will be many more maps in the final game.
The demo has three alien species in it. In the final game, there are at least nine. Each alien species has up to nine different ranks / variants (though some only have one). Thus, there will be a lot more alien types in the final game.
The AI is not finished either. Aliens will be a lot smarter in the final game.

We definitely think it will be worth it, though – it should make the game vastly more immersive and we’re really happy we’ve raised the funds to be able to add this in.

OK, without further ado, here’s the available stretch goals. Vote for your favorites on the poll here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CBDTVPS (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/CBDTVPS)

Mac / Linux port – The game will be ported onto Mac / Linux platforms for release, and hopefully for beta too.
Female soldiers – We’ll add female soldiers to the game, with 25-30 female portraits and modified Basic Armour soldier art. Battlefield sprites will remain unisex.
Soviet Town terror tileset ($40k) – the current terror tileset is an American town. To fit with the Cold War theme, we’ll put in an alternate tileset for the Soviet bloc countries using Soviet-style architecture.
Military Base tileset ($40k) – this tileset would allow us to put military terror sites in the game, where aliens have attacked a military base and you are sent in to deal with them.
Indoor missions – these would be missions where combat squads are sent into large buildings or into underground bunkers to clear out an alien strike team. We can mostly re-use the Xenonaut Base tiles for this, so this will be a $25k item.
Reaper (Chryssalid) Hive tileset ($40k) – in addition to the normal alien base missions, we will add Reaper (the Xenonaut equivalent of Chryssalids) Hive missions to the late-game. These would feature “nodes” that spawned infinite numbers of Reapers until destroyed. Yes, I have been playing Space Hulk.
Tileset-Specific NPC Allies – we do have friendly AI soldiers in the game, but only one type. This would add different variants – police on the Industrial tileset, farmers with shotguns on the Farm tileset, mujahedeen with AK-47s on the Desert tileset etc.
Vehicle Combat Experience – soldiers level up with experience, vehicles do not. This would allow vehicles to increase their stats (not armour / health) by a maximum of 15% with combat experience.
Pilot Portraits and Callsigns – at the moment, the aircraft are just aircraft. This would give each aircraft a pilot portrait and a callsign, so they seem less expendable. These pilots will not level up with experience.
Human Psionics and Blaster Bombs – We’ve removed these from the game due to balance reasons, and we will not put them in Xenonauts. This stretch goal would bundle the game with a developer-made mod that allowed people to put them back in.
Memorial Screen – This would be a tab on the UI which allowed you to view a list of all your dead soldiers, including the location and time of death, their portrait and number of kills etc.
Proxy Grenades – These are fun. This would add a secondary fire function to all advanced grenades (Alenium grenades upwards) that allows them to be used as proxy grenades.
Motion Detector – This would be a one-hand soldier item that, when equipped, will display a coloured overlay on the battlefield to show any AI movement in previous turn within range of the soldier holding it.
Hire a Level Designer - we will add a lot more map variation to the game before release, but we don’t have a devoted level designer. This will let us hire one.
Tall Grass – There’s waist-high grass in X-Com. This would put it in Xenonauts too, complete with the ridiculous (yet amusing) fire mechanics from the original.


These kinds of statements :

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There's still plenty of work to do done on the game, a lot to do with the interface and usability, but we hope it is advanced enough for you to see what we are shooting for for the final game!

There will be many more maps in the final game

It will let us experiment with the cool ideas listed above (amongst others)

The AI is not finished either. Aliens will be a lot smarter in the final game.

it should make the game vastly more immersive

First, I need to stress that the demo on our page is an alpha version of the game. There are several major elements which are not in it, but have always been planned.

Are what I'm talking about. Words like "hope" and "should be" and "will be" are the wiggle room for your to imagine something that is better than what is being shown or demoed, to paint a mental picture of how great it will be "when it all comes together". They're all talking about what the game will potentially be.

AoD isn't in this position. Unless Vince wants to promise a whole bunch of new shit, all they can do is say "This is the game we made. This is exactly how it will play. This is not "suggestive" of the end product, it is the end product. Wanna give us some money now?"

****

Look, I'm not trying to be a dick here, I know we all just want AoD to succeed, and we're trying to offer suggestions we think we will help. I don't completely disagree with what you guys are saying, either, though I do disagree with some of the comparisons, for the reasons I've stated above.

If it were me, I'd try kickstarter. Because what's there to lose, right? Even if you completely fail, it's a free mention on RPS. Two mentions, actually, because they will mention you again near the end of your KS campaign, lovely fellows that they are. And KS is a traffic aggregator, so there is that. It's like getting an advert on TV for free.

Vince thinks everyone who is interested in AoD already knows about it. I think people have short attention spans, and could do with regular reminding. And I'd bet money that if he starts a KS, the rate of pre-orders he gets on the site would increase, paradoxically. Other indies have reported counter-intuitive shit like this during steam sales. While the steam sale is running and people can pick up the game for 50% off, there is an increase in people who buy the game at full price on their site. Because fuck logic, that's why. (It's really just the word of mouth effect, but anyway)

But I'm also have more willing to add in superficial shit to pad out pledge tiers than Vince is. Pledge X and get your name on a readable tombstone in the game? Sure, why not. He wants people to buy because they like the game, or not if they don't, and believes that resorting to gimmicks is cheating.

Me, I have less pride. If begging on Kickstarter would give me "a win", I'd take it. And I'd do it now, before the KS bubble bursts. Sometimes, even the best artists have to seek patronage. Leonardo Da Vinci served Cesare Borgia, ffs. If it's good enough for Leo, it's good enough for me.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on June 10, 2012, 07:23:48 am
@Gareth: I never disputed what you claim above, I merely wanted to point out that it is probably a lot less important to the actual KS turnout than some people seem to think. You are of course right in saying that Dead State leaves quite some space for hopes and imagination compared to AoD, but if you put them on a hypothetical "dream game - real game" axis, they're not that far apart. The Double Fine adventure could be pretty much any 2D adventure game you ever dreamed of: there was no story, no setting, no concept art, no UI. Compared to that, Dead State is defined quite sharply, and, like you said, the major unknown about it is whether or not the audience will find the finished product enjoyable. Likewise, it is pretty clear what kind of game AoD is from the demo, but there are still important questions (will the team manage to flesh out the world with more details, find the optimal middle ground for the teleporting issue, balance combat for everybody, how satisfactory will it be to play through the whole story -- these could still dramatically improve the reception for the finished game), and let's not forget: if you read through the comments, many of those who felt let down by AoD actually assumed Dead State will be very similar and dismissed it ("this is the same crap AoD combat, no way in hell am I pledging for this").

My whole point is that while Dead State is, all things considered, probably in a better position for KS than AoD, they're not light years apart and that a, say, 100K AoD campaign would be pretty much a guaranteed success. Or, to put it differently, AoD's current pre-order system is a vastly different thing from a KS drive and it's not possible to meaningfully compare the results of the two (AoD pre-orders vs. Dead State KS).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on June 10, 2012, 10:17:24 am
Fair enough. Definitely agree on the last sentence. And you make a good point about how many people who dismissed AoD also did so for similar reasons with DS.

Like I said, if it were me I'd do the Kickstarter. If for no other reason than life is full of surprises, it could succeed, and the cost of trying is very low.

Also...for science. To test what happens and learn from it, with some nice stats tracking behind it.

Even if your kickstarter fails, if you get a sustained traffic bump from it then you know there were people who hadn't heard about it before who now have. If it costs you a few afternoons to put together and all you get out of it is 10k new forum visitors for 2 months, that's worth it, IMO. The power of portals is not to be underestimated, and Kickstarter has a monthly throughput of 6 million people.

I'd actually be curious to see traffic stats for ITS since DS started their kickstarter effort.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 10, 2012, 10:50:31 am
Vince has his reasons for not going the KS route and I completely respect that, but I think it's pretty obvious that had he opted to, AoD would easily make 10 times the amount that the current pre-orders brought in and beyond...
Is it pretty obvious? Especially, since you say that all other factors are nearly the same? So far Brian relied on RPS to drive people to KS. RPS gave us plenty of coverage and even mentioned that we're taking pre-orders now. So, again, it's not like AoD is some unknown project that could have done so much better if only more people knew about it.

Sadly, KS is about anything but games. It's about hype, excitement, making people feel like patrons of [motherfucking] arts, and, of course, loot. What's the #1 criticism of Dead State's KS? Bad loot. What does it have to do with the game? What did Fargo do so well? What's the secret to KS' success? Loot. It's hard to hit your goal just by selling the game at 15 bucks. You have to climb higher and entice people to give you their money for some (usually) unrelated shit.

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...compare for instance Legends of Eisenwald, where the team got their first coverage ever during the KS campaign -- on the RPG Codex of all place
It doesn't matter when they got their first coverage. What matter is that they got plenty of it. If anything, going from unknown to known in 15 days is a huge plus. It's new and exciting.

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You are of course right in saying that Dead State leaves quite some space for hopes and imagination compared to AoD, but if you put them on a hypothetical "dream game - real game" axis, they're not that far apart.
I'd have to agree with Gareth here. They are miles apart. Coincidentally, Gareth is probably right about the mainstream demos. I wouldn't be surprised if they disappeared precisely because demos do a poor job of selling games. Unlike trailers.

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Compared to that, Dead State is defined quite sharply, and, like you said, the major unknown about it is whether or not the audience will find the finished product enjoyable.
No matter how much you know (or you think you know) about a game, nothing is defined sharply until you play it. I was very open about AoD, explained everything, did an LP, posted tons of dialogue sequences, etc, and yet 95% of people felt that the game wasn't what they expected. Fortunately, many people liked it, but they expected something different, despite all my efforts to show them what kind of game we're making.

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Likewise, it is pretty clear what kind of game AoD is from the demo, but there are still important questions (will the team manage to flesh out the world with more details, find the optimal middle ground for the teleporting issue, balance combat for everybody, how satisfactory will it be to play through the whole story -- these could still dramatically improve the reception for the finished game)...
True, but we didn't promise to any of that. The world will be as detailed as Teron, the teleporting isn't going anywhere, and we aren't going to balance combat for everyone since it's impossible.
...
I'd actually be curious to see traffic stats for ITS since DS started their kickstarter effort.
No changes so far.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/149t08.jpg)



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: micks on June 10, 2012, 04:31:30 pm
@Vince: Look, like I said, I agree with Gareth's basic idea on dream vs. reality and I respect your opinions on KS (although I do not agree with all of them) and your decision not to use it; my point was (again, as summed up above) that a simple pre-order system (even a well publicized one) is simply incomparable to a KS drive and that it is my honest belief that an AoD drive on KS would do comparably well to Dead State. Since there will be none, we will probably never learn whether I'm right or wrong; I sincerely hope that the game does great anyway, which I think is a good way to conclude this particular debate.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SniperHF on June 10, 2012, 09:33:34 pm
Regarding the whole issue of what the game is vs what people wanted it to be.  I think a lot of people really didn't pay attention to the specifics so maybe they missed a few key buzzwords  :smug:

I didn't follow development too closely though I knew about the game for a long time.  A few months before the public beta came out I heard Vince mention "text-adventures" and I instantly knew how some of the gameplay would be and adjusted my expectations accordingly. 

And with that quote Vince posted on the issue of an "old-school" RPG, I sort of disagree.  Maybe not everyone thinks this way, but to me an RPG of the "old-school" isn't a game that uses the same mechanics or style as games did before the industry grew to a massive size.  I consider "old-school" a mind set where the player isn't expected to be the lowest common denominator.   On that criteria AoD earned my pre-order and a boxed copy some Thursday down the line.   

Haven't touched R2 much yet either, just started my first character.

...
I'd actually be curious to see traffic stats for ITS since DS started their kickstarter effort.
No changes so far.


Really not too surprised about that.  Their KS doesn't point to ITS much at all. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gareth on June 11, 2012, 02:35:58 am
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Really not too surprised about that.  Their KS doesn't point to ITS much at all.

Yeah. Would be curious to see the DB site stats, but even there I don't expect that much traffic. The KS page has a 238 comments on it, I think people are simply staying on the KS page for info and discussion.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 14, 2012, 06:08:06 am
350 pre-orders:

United States      89
Australia      23
France      22
Canada       20
Germany      20
United Kingdom       20
Poland      19
Sweden       18
Russia      16
Finland      13
Denmark      11
Norway       11
Italy       8
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Spain       4
Ukraine       4
Brazil       3
Croatia       3
Turkey       3
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Belgium      1
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Lithuania      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1




Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Boyinleaves on June 15, 2012, 08:15:58 pm
Wow, only just happened to notice the pre-order when I happened on the AoD home page by accident. Congratulations on getting this far guys.

I've got more value and enjoyment out of your combat demo than out of most AAA titles, so it's a no brainer to support you with a pre-order.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on June 16, 2012, 06:01:01 am
Thanks! Hope you're enjoying beta as well - you can find there lots of combat too, if that's what you prefer, just join Imperial Guards =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: l3loodAngel on June 23, 2012, 12:28:30 pm
Thanks! Hope you're enjoying beta as well - you can find there lots of combat too, if that's what you prefer, just join Imperial Guards =)

With 4 int  >:D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 25, 2012, 08:25:05 pm
Slowly climbed to 360. Got our first order from Portugal and orders from Germany, Australia, Denmark, and Norway.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Palmer Eldritch on June 25, 2012, 10:09:48 pm
I finished the second version of the demo a while back, as a merchant. The non-violent approach was really enjoyable, but mastering the combat system is not worth it for me because of the limited scope of the demo. I imagine that the full game will offer a lot more flexibility with more content (for instance, less desirable outcomes might be more acceptable in the early stage of the game), especially with alchemy and other means of experimentation.

I will pre-order once my financial situation is less chaotic.

 :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Yemeth on July 01, 2012, 05:21:33 am
Hello,

I backed this 8.6.2012, but I was too stupid to find how and where to send the "filler character" infos?

BTW, you can add +1 to Croatia.

Never found the time to finish the demo, now I am torn between waiting for the final release or spoiling stuff with the demo.

Cheers...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 01, 2012, 06:12:10 am
Send it to me, but I'd suggest to finish the demo first.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Yemeth on July 05, 2012, 02:07:28 pm
Sent it to me, but I'd suggest to finish the demo first.

Thanks a lot for your answer! Ok, will finish the demo first and then try to send something interesting to you.

Cheers...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Hyomoto on July 06, 2012, 07:20:11 am
Yay!  I'm a statistic!  But seriously, I'd also like to motion I got more satisfaction out of losing a single fight with the merchant in your game that I did out of twenty hours of Skyrim.  Most of the teleportation works great, and it answers a question I had, "What if you made a game that didn't have all the pointless meandering, what would that be like?"  Is it perfect?  That's a stupid question.  Its different, and I thank you heartily for doing it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 06, 2012, 07:46:07 am
Thanks.

PS.
We slowly climbed to 373 pre-orders:

United States      95
Australia      26
Germany      23
France      22
Canada       21
United Kingdom       21
Poland      19
Sweden       18
Russia      17
Finland      14
Denmark      12
Norway       12
Italy       10
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Ukraine       5
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Croatia       3
Turkey       3
Belgium      2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Lithuania      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Portugal      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1

Thanks to everyone for the support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: catmorbid on July 10, 2012, 08:14:29 am
Notch up another Finn won't you! Damn swedes still leading us by a few!  >:( We shall be victorious! :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 10, 2012, 08:49:45 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zachstar2015 on July 10, 2012, 08:26:33 pm
Preordered and went for some extra for the very nice badge (And of course to support everyone involved with the Iron Tower & DoubleBear collaboration  :) )

Tell you the truth I STILL don't know what the game is. However it has been stated that this indie game has been in development for over half a decade now. Atleast I know that if I somehow do not like it. It will not be because the game was rushed like so many others I have paid full price for and never played again.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dalis on July 11, 2012, 04:34:21 am
I cant believe i forgot about this game for a while since i got my new rig.. Came back and noticed the pre-order and demo and and.. I´m happy as a barrel full of monkeys on nitrous oxide :)
Another fin for the eternal fight to beat swedes in everything, including pre-order of great games.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on July 11, 2012, 04:57:13 am
The Nordic countries should rather collaborate than compete, they're all so awesome  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on July 11, 2012, 05:26:01 am
The Nordic countries should rather collaborate than compete, they're all so awesome  :approve:
I disagree, the whole world should collaborate ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: PhoenixFlame on July 18, 2012, 06:46:47 am
Well dropped my $40 of a copy, now to play enough that I can develop a fun filler character  :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 18, 2012, 08:44:23 am
Thanks for your support, Phoenix. Looking forward to your contribution.






Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 22, 2012, 10:18:05 am
First pre-order from Iceland! Thanks, Einar.

391 pre-orders so far:

United States      102
Australia      26
Germany      25
Canada       24
United Kingdom       23
France      22
Poland      19
Sweden       18
Russia      17
Finland      15
Denmark      13
Norway       12
Italy       10
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Ukraine       5
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Croatia       3
Turkey       3
Belgium      2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Portugal      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
Iceland      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Lithuania      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
New Zealand      1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on July 25, 2012, 06:22:28 am
So, with near to 400 preorders, I suppose your goal of at least 10k $ from preorders (400*25 minimum) is near to be achieved?If so, congrats Iron Tower  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 25, 2012, 07:09:02 am
Thanks. Current stats: $11,724.97, 393 pre-orders, $29.8 avg.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on July 26, 2012, 07:42:34 am
Good to hear. :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Yemeth on July 31, 2012, 02:49:35 pm
Thanks. Current stats: $11,724.97, 393 pre-orders, $29.8 avg.

Congratulations! Hope that you will get more pre-orders and that it will really help with the cashflow...

Cheers...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 07, 2012, 07:13:47 am
400 pre-orders.

United States      106
Australia      26
Germany      25
Canada       24
United Kingdom       24
France      23
Poland      19
Sweden       18
Russia      17
Finland      15
Denmark      13
Norway       12
Italy       11
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Ukraine       5
Croatia       4
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Spain       4
Brazil       3
Turkey       3
Belgium      2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
New Zealand      2
Portugal      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
Iceland      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Lithuania      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
Peru      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on August 07, 2012, 08:08:56 am
Slow and steady wins the race  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 07, 2012, 08:34:09 am
It's not a lot, but considering the controversial nature of the game (http://gamingbetas.com/articles/11-age-of-decadence-open-beta-first-impressions), it's good to know that 400 people liked the game enough to pre-order it to show their support.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on August 07, 2012, 11:25:02 am
Since the opening preorder system (04/02), it mathematically makes around 100 preorders per month.
Good score   8)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dickie on August 13, 2012, 09:50:00 am
Since the opening preorder system (04/02), it mathematically makes around 100 preorders per month.
Good score   8)
At this rate, you'll be a millionaire in under 40 years.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 14, 2012, 07:33:55 am
Patience is a virtue.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Hyomoto on August 14, 2012, 08:18:39 am
"Had I grown dependent on the cookie-cutter gameplay and predictable storylines that AAA titles have turned to? Probably, to some extent, this was a piece of the problem."

I think it is almost entirely the problem.  "Great" interfaces were never a selling point for most RPG's, and most players relished in their ability to navigate the sometimes labyrinthine and confusing menus to get the information they wanted.  AoD is not that difficult to understand at a glance, and anyone who struggles just to figure out the camera may not be suited for a game that hopes to deliver a challenge.  Perhaps you'll be the 'Dark Souls' of the turn-based choice-based RPG's.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Karasu on August 14, 2012, 12:37:45 pm
"Had I grown dependent on the cookie-cutter gameplay and predictable storylines that AAA titles have turned to? Probably, to some extent, this was a piece of the problem."

I think it is almost entirely the problem.  "Great" interfaces were never a selling point for most RPG's, and most players relished in their ability to navigate the sometimes labyrinthine and confusing menus to get the information they wanted.  AoD is not that difficult to understand at a glance, and anyone who struggles just to figure out the camera may not be suited for a game that hopes to deliver a challenge.  Perhaps you'll be the 'Dark Souls' of the turn-based choice-based RPG's.

I would mention his first experience as a proof to this with the "friendly" merchant. I was impressed that situation (and died a few times). Also just a note - if I remember as a grifter you could actually get some insight on the situation - so you don't need high combat skill (maybe it is depend on Perception/background).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on August 15, 2012, 08:37:17 am
I think it depends on Streetwise. It's the bullshiting/anti-bullshitting skill.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 01, 2012, 05:43:01 pm
425 pre-orders:

United States      115
Australia      26
Germany      26
United Kingdom       26
Canada       25
France      24
Russia      21
Sweden       20
Poland      19
Finland      17
Denmark      13
Norway       12
Italy       11
Netherlands      5
Spain       5
Switzerland       5
Ukraine       5
Croatia       4
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Brazil       3
Turkey       3
Belgium      2
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Lithuania      2
New Zealand      2
Portugal      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
Iceland      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Malta      1
Namibia       1
Peru      1
Philippines      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1
...

by month:

Apr   242   $7,732   $31.95
May   84   $2,136   $25.43
Jun   40   $1,108   $27.71
Jul   29   $816   $28.15
Aug   27   $747   $27.67
Sep   3   $81   $27.00



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: skygod on September 03, 2012, 08:20:28 am
I LOVED this demo.  Combat is some of the best I've seen in any game, ever.   I've been yearning for turn-based game like this for a long time.  I just pre-ordered.   


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 03, 2012, 11:39:33 am
Thank you for the support.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: zdsdead on September 06, 2012, 04:23:45 am
pre ordered! I love this sort of game, as im old school rpg, not click, click, click,  modern piles of sh**e, I like the learning curve/difficulty of this game, well done :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: argan on September 09, 2012, 03:32:27 pm
Just tried the public beta.

With a risk of sounding cheesy, thank you for restoring my faith that there are still people appreciating the same kind of games that I enjoy. To play a top-down view RPG with interesting character development and turn-based combat again reminded me of why I loved those games in the first place.

I will place a pre-order as soon as I get September's paycheck (about two weeks).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 09, 2012, 03:39:56 pm
Much appreciated.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: LTPLegend on September 10, 2012, 07:29:28 pm
Hell I was still playing FF on Nintendo and SNES 10 years ago because the story was good. I still love FF7, MOO2, FF Tactics, Ogre Battles, Metal Marines, Chrono Trigger and other low graphics games that had awesome story lines or game play. We need to stop pushing graphics and start pushing game play again. They don't need to be breath taking that's what cut scenes are for like FF7 I played the game for those things. It needs to be crisp and cool like FF Tactics minus the main characters purple sweater and not being able to be a holy knight or the like. I loved the death cry in that game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Rulion on September 17, 2012, 02:38:24 pm
Hey guys,

Are you still doing the filler character thing, or has that come and gone? I was thinking of something to get my GF that she might enjoy, and I'm sure she would get a definite kick out of seeing her little alter-ego in here somewhere.

EDIT:
5 years and 20 posts? I am the ultimate lurker. FUCK YEAH.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 17, 2012, 02:58:37 pm
Still doing it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Rulion on September 17, 2012, 03:25:33 pm
Still doing it.
Wheee. Pre-ordered! Is there a preferred way to submit the filler to you guys?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Karasu on September 17, 2012, 03:50:58 pm
Still doing it.

By the way Vince I had trouble to pay the extra for the filler character so I went on just with a regular character. It might has to do something with the exchange of money I suppose. Is there any way later on to pay for a filler character?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 17, 2012, 06:16:02 pm
Still doing it.
Wheee. Pre-ordered! Is there a preferred way to submit the filler to you guys?
PM me your idea for the character, we'll discuss it (to make sure it fits) and take it from there.

By the way Vince I had trouble to pay the extra for the filler character so I went on just with a regular character. It might has to do something with the exchange of money I suppose. Is there any way later on to pay for a filler character?
Don't think so, but I'll check.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Chronos78 on September 18, 2012, 06:34:59 am
I Preordered.

I suppose I must wait the release to click one of the links received, but I prefer to have confirmation.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 18, 2012, 06:45:09 am
The linked file is a placeholder. When the game is ready the placeholder file will be replaced with a file containing the actual game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Chronos78 on September 18, 2012, 06:57:23 am
Very well. I just have to wait until then.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 18, 2012, 08:13:44 am
Thank you for your patronage.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Chronos78 on September 18, 2012, 10:35:02 am
My pleasure. There is much more fun in AoD combat demo and beta than in many AAA "RPG labeled" recent games


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 22, 2012, 08:20:27 am
Got a few orders from Netherlands. Thanks, our Apeldoorn bros!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: argan on September 25, 2012, 03:54:07 pm
I want to pre-order, but for some reason as soon as I click anywhere in the fields, try to change payment method to paypal or whatever, the page just refreshes. Can I do it separately via PayPal?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 25, 2012, 05:39:35 pm
Afraid not. At the moment, BMT is our only option. They do process PayPal payments, so it should work. Try using a different browser, if you have one installed.

I'll ask BMT and see if they can offer any assistance.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: argan on September 26, 2012, 02:02:03 am
Alright, I'll try with IE instead.

Edit: It worked now. Weird; for some reason it didn't work with Firefox. Anyway, dropped 50$ (plus 12.5 in taxes). I hope you make good use of the money. :) I'll probably add another 25$ for the box release when it's done, though. I love retail boxes...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 26, 2012, 06:09:37 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Palmer Eldritch on September 27, 2012, 11:59:05 am
Finally pre-ordered! I put in 40 dollars because I love you guys. If I have time, I'll try to put something simple together for a filler character soon.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 27, 2012, 01:07:27 pm
Thanks, both for the pre-order and being a part of this community. Always a pleasure to read your posts.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Palmer Eldritch on September 27, 2012, 08:16:49 pm
:salute:

Much appreciated.

Very excited about seeing how it all comes together in the final product. You certainly didn't choose the easiest path in terms of design philosophy, considering that this is your first game :)

Still, the demo proved that you were able to put this design into practice. Just keep up the good work and I'm convinced that it will be a success.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 28, 2012, 06:14:23 am
450 pre-orders:

United States      120
Germany      28
United Kingdom       27
Australia      26
France      26
Canada       25
Russia      24
Sweden       24
Finland      19
Poland      19
Denmark      13
Norway       13
Italy       12
Spain       6
Netherlands      5
Switzerland       5
Ukraine       5
Croatia       4
Czech Republic      4
Israel      4
Belgium      3
Brazil       3
Turkey       3
Estonia      2
Hungary      2
Lithuania      2
Malta      2
New Zealand      2
Portugal      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
China      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
Hong Kong      1
Iceland      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Namibia       1
Peru      1
Philippines      1
Romania      1
Singapore      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Communista on September 29, 2012, 01:40:25 am
And here's another swede that chose to support you guys! Keep up the awesome work!
Looking forward to this game, have been trying to recommend all my friends to try your game.

God Bless!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 29, 2012, 08:58:55 am
Another Swede? What is it with you guys and hardcore RPGs?

PS. We just got our first pre-order from Saudi Arabia. Global reach++


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: hammoudith on September 29, 2012, 09:14:40 am
You guys deserve it. Can't wait  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 29, 2012, 09:16:42 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Communista on September 29, 2012, 12:29:01 pm
Some of us are still living old-school when it comes to RPG-gaming.
Once you have gone fallout you never go back, and fallout 1-2 is still two of the single most epic RPG's ever made!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cerberus9090 on September 29, 2012, 04:29:43 pm
Been following and lurking for several years now (saw someone say 5... has it been that long??). The public beta convinced me to pre-order - it's solid and fun. Can't wait for more. Good luck guys!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 30, 2012, 08:37:46 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on October 12, 2012, 04:14:09 am
Holy shit, another Malteser pledged. :o WE MUST BE FRIENDS.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: CJoshuaV on October 14, 2012, 04:32:22 pm
Happy to send you my money a little early.  You were going to get it anyway...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 14, 2012, 04:42:01 pm
Thanks, Joshua.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kaldurenik on October 16, 2012, 03:29:36 pm
Waiting on the boxed version :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 16, 2012, 04:27:31 pm
Thank you for your support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kaldurenik on October 17, 2012, 09:13:23 am
Pre-ordered from sweden now!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 17, 2012, 09:20:43 am
Thanks! Top 5 countries, by the number of pre-orders:

1. United States
2. Sweden
3. Germany
4. United Kingdom
5. Australia




Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: wesleyclark on October 18, 2012, 01:29:05 pm
Has a decision been made on a Mac version?  Last I recall seeing it was still just a possibility, but could have missed it. I'd preorder, but switched to Mac about 2yrs ago.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 18, 2012, 01:58:48 pm
At the moment, there is no Mac and Linux support for T3D (the engine).

More info on the issues here:
http://www.garagegames.com/community/forums/viewthread/131322 (http://www.garagegames.com/community/forums/viewthread/131322)

So, it seems like it's planned and some work is being done, but they aren't there yet. While we'll try to port the game to Mac and Linux (no reason not to), I don't want to lie to you and promise what we may or may not be able to deliver.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on October 19, 2012, 07:41:05 am
Rampant Coyote outsourced the Mac port of Frayed Knights (IIRC), another Torque game, though for an older iteration of the engine (again, IIRC). Apparently that port has turned out to be quite a nightmare and still isn't finished. So yeah, unless garagegames get things sorted out, a port would be far too labor-intensive at the moment, or so it seems.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: WMALE on November 03, 2012, 06:52:35 am
Just pre-ordered
playing demo was like a reading a good book (part of the book actually ;)) keep up with the good work!
cheers


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on November 03, 2012, 07:21:38 am
Thank you =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zillion on November 09, 2012, 04:01:35 pm
Only did the regular pre-order but will definitely do another contribution soon!  AoD is a sweet-ass game and voted it for the Green Light deal.  Thanks, and keep up the stellar work!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 09, 2012, 04:33:02 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: callehe on November 10, 2012, 06:02:24 am
Thanks for the reminder, finally made my pre-order, 250 USD coming your way.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 10, 2012, 07:57:58 am
Most generous of you. Thank you very much.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on November 10, 2012, 11:40:11 am
Thank you very much! :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: antja on November 10, 2012, 04:16:12 pm
Pre-ordered. Keep up the great work guys. Can't wait!  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 10, 2012, 04:26:07 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: callehe on November 10, 2012, 09:29:13 pm
Keep fight the good fight!  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: LordBlade on November 16, 2012, 12:19:44 pm
What's up with this BMT ordering thing? When I click the link, I see AoD on there, but also Towns for $14.99.
WTF?

I tried removing it, but it keeps coming up.
I own Towns on Steam, and haven't ever tried ordering it any other way.

Know how to fix this?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on November 16, 2012, 12:54:17 pm
Where do you see it? By going to the page, linked from the first post? All seems fine there to me.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: LordBlade on November 16, 2012, 02:29:53 pm
I click on the link in the first post.

I get a page titled BMT Micro Shopping Cart.
The background is the same as the AoD pages, however at the top it shows:

1 Towns
1 PRE-ORDER: The Age of Decadence


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: abracab on November 16, 2012, 05:33:44 pm
I click on the link in the first post.

I get a page titled BMT Micro Shopping Cart.
The background is the same as the AoD pages, however at the top it shows:

1 Towns
1 PRE-ORDER: The Age of Decadence

It's an order from another site with BMT. You can delete it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zillion on November 16, 2012, 05:56:07 pm
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but if I've pre-ordered previously, would I be able to contribute the difference and still receive said "rewards"?  And how would I be able to do that?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: LordBlade on November 16, 2012, 08:25:45 pm
It's an order from another site with BMT. You can delete it.

That's the thing. I click to remove the item, and the screen does a flash refresh, but the item's still there.
I don't want to process the payment until I know I can properly remove the Towns item, as I don't want to spend $15 for no reason on a game I already have.
I don't know why it won't go away.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on November 16, 2012, 09:55:53 pm
Try using private browsing if your browser has it, or clear your browser's cookies and cache.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Praudmur on December 11, 2012, 06:48:05 am
I ordered 40$ version. Now i need to think about my filler character... Who will it be?I need to think. Thx for great game guys(yes i know it is not finished but i have no doubts).  :)
Особая благодарность Vince за ответы на ag20.ru (i mean here http://riotpixels.com/forums/topic/82-age-of-decadence/page-4 (http://riotpixels.com/forums/topic/82-age-of-decadence/page-4) =).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 11, 2012, 07:31:56 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Essegi on December 16, 2012, 08:27:52 am
Hello, today finally i have decided to preorder (the basic one).
Seriously, romanlike + post-apocalyptic + low magic is THE setting... Hardcore and turn based combat is THE way!
Toady i bought Knights Of The Calice too!:D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: sykopat on December 19, 2012, 10:43:36 am
I like what I have seen so far.

Count me in!

Just pre-ordered.

 :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 19, 2012, 11:00:58 am
Thanks, guys!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 24, 2012, 06:46:07 pm
Latest update: 545 pre-orders

United States      141
United Kingdom       35
France      33
Germany      33
Sweden       31
Australia      30
Canada       30
Russia      29
Poland      25
Finland      22
Norway       15
Denmark      14
Italy       13
Netherlands      8
Ukraine       7
Spain       6
Switzerland       6
Brazil       5
Czech Republic      5
Croatia       4
Israel      4
Austria      3
Belgium      3
Hungary      3
New Zealand      3
Turkey       3
China      2
Estonia      2
Hong Kong      2
Lithuania      2
Malaysia      2
Malta      2
Portugal      2
Singapore      2
Bulgaria      1
Canary Islands       1
Chile      1
Colombia      1
Greece      1
Iceland      1
India       1
Ireland       1
Japan      1
Latvia      1
Namibia       1
Peru      1
Philippines      1
Romania      1
Saudi Arabia      1
Slovak Republic      1
South Africa      1
United Arab Emirates      1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 26, 2012, 10:05:57 pm
Whoa! More orders from Sweden, Finland, and Norway! Thanks, guys!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Goldenpeak on December 27, 2012, 04:04:40 pm
Delayed Christmas gift. +1 preorder :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on December 27, 2012, 04:51:41 pm
Thanks! :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on December 28, 2012, 08:28:17 am
I still want to know who the other Maltese guy is. It really is a big thing that someone else from over here preordered AoD. We could become best friends.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 28, 2012, 08:58:02 am
What city are you from?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 28, 2012, 09:06:22 am
You'd have to go all the way to Birzebbuga.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 28, 2012, 09:15:14 am
From Valetta (capital), it's just a 20 minutes trip tough.
I could email that guy by the address we've got and ask if he wants a new friend as well. That would be the perfrect solution, I guess. What do you think, Anonxeuix?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 28, 2012, 09:22:54 am
No, no emails please. It would sort of put the other guy on the spot, not to mention that it would be considered invasion of his privacy. Just because we see some personal data doesn't mean that we should ever make contact, unless requested by the customer.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 28, 2012, 09:32:08 am
Well, I did think about "abusing data" in the sense of giving it to someone else without permission. But writing a single email on a personal matter? Doesn't sound like a big invasion to me. But, oh well, if you say it is...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anonxeuix on December 28, 2012, 09:41:30 am
Nah no emails, I don't want him to hunt me down and kill me. I was just wondering where he's from exactly (Birzebbuga).

Birzebbuga and Valletta are both near me. I was in Birzebbuga yesterday in fact. :D I doubt Valletta is correct though, it's kinda the default location given in Malta.

Now all I have to do is go up to every person I meet in Birzebbuga and ask him about this game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 28, 2012, 12:52:58 pm
Or you can go there with "If you the one who preordered Age of Decadence, contact me" posters, and stick them to the walls and lamp posts =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Brandon on December 28, 2012, 09:59:01 pm
So I screwed up and paid $25 instead of the $30 preorder. I don't suppose there is any way to rectify this?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 28, 2012, 11:15:11 pm
Nope. Don't worry about it and thank you for the order.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Brandon on December 29, 2012, 12:17:42 am
Thank you guys for this game. Very much looking forward to the final release.   :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Euchrid on December 31, 2012, 11:04:40 pm
Now all I have to do is go up to every person I meet in Birzebbuga and ask him about this game.

What, no quest indicators above NPCs heads in Malta? Sometimes we can feel nostalgia for older mechanics and low levels of hand-holding, but in reality they're often just annoying ;).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on January 02, 2013, 07:08:49 am
For the wire transfer payment I don't actually need to have an account at Commerzbank, right? They're just the ones that will get the money to you guys, right?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 02, 2013, 07:53:19 am
Yes.

Edit: Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on January 03, 2013, 05:02:47 am
OK, I've placed the order now, but according to the e-mail I got it could take them a couple of weeks to process the transfer. When it comes through add Slovenia to the list of countries with preorders.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SA_Avenger on January 05, 2013, 09:22:31 am
What is best for you guys, does it change anything if we preorder in euro or USD?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 05, 2013, 09:44:29 am
I don't think so. I think they convert it automatically to USD.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zephyr on January 07, 2013, 02:29:08 pm
I finally got around to actually place the order. I just wanted to ask: if I save the product ID, password and download link would that be enough? Since I might have to change my e-mail address before the (final) release of AoD.
Would the download link and everything be enough or do I need to have (access too) the same e-mail adress for future patches?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 07, 2013, 03:19:43 pm
The download link is all you need. Should you lose it. PM me and I'll be glad to sort it out. Basically, if you pre-order, you don't have to worry about losing anything. We'll find your order and provide you with a new link at any time.




Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 15, 2013, 11:36:40 am
575 pre-orders.
   
   United States   150
   Sweden    35
   United Kingdom    35
   Germany   34
   Russia   34
   Canada    33
   France   33
   Australia   31
   Poland   26
   Finland   23
   Norway    15
   Denmark   14
   Italy    13
   Netherlands   9
   Ukraine    9
   Spain    6
   Switzerland    6
   Brazil    5
   Czech Republic   5
   Belgium   4
   Croatia    4
   Israel   4
   Austria   3
   Hungary   3
   New Zealand   3
   Turkey    3
   China   2
   Estonia   2
   Hong Kong   2
   Lithuania   2
   Malaysia   2
   Malta   2
   Portugal   2
   Singapore   2
   Slovenia   2
   Bulgaria   1
   Canary Islands    1
   Chile   1
   Colombia   1
   Greece   1
   Iceland   1
   India    1
   Ireland    1
   Japan   1
   Latvia   1
   Namibia    1
   Peru   1
   Philippines   1
   Romania   1
   Saudi Arabia   1
   South Africa   1
   United Arab Emirates   1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on January 15, 2013, 03:14:40 pm
Thanks for the update.
Is there an effect of the recent Russian Demo Version for the amount of the Russian preorders?Or is it too early to say that?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 15, 2013, 09:34:44 pm
Too early to say. So far we got 4 pre-orders from Russia and 1 from Ukraine since the Russian version was released.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Cosmomemory on January 27, 2013, 01:14:53 pm
+1 from Russia. although it had absolutely nothing to do with a translated version, i can tell you that much. Also i can promise that once the pre ordering on steam is available, i'll send 2-3 copies to a few good friends of mine within a week or so.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 27, 2013, 01:16:43 pm
Thanks! Welcome to the forums.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pribovich on January 31, 2013, 12:56:27 pm
Just preordered my copy. +1 from UK :) Can't wait for the release. The trailer looks really good.

I actually found out about this game watching the game station podcast where the trailer has been featured. It's a shame the game doesn't get more recognition, maybe it will once it's out.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 01, 2013, 01:44:54 pm
Thanks. Make sure you got a confirmation email from BMT as sometimes they decline orders (about 2-3 a month) if they can't verify them. We didn't get any UK pre-orders last week, so maybe yours was rejected for some reasons as well.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oddward on February 02, 2013, 03:18:37 pm
And here I go, breaking my promise to never ever pre-order anything. +1 from Russia.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 02, 2013, 05:10:36 pm
Your patronage is much appreciated. If you liked the demo, you'll like the full game a lot more.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Brandon on February 16, 2013, 06:39:32 pm
Hey Vince, I see that the download link is unique, therefore if I wanted to give a pre-order as a gift to someone, I could forward them the link, and purchase another for myself?

I realize there might be easier ways to do it, but I really want the second one to be for me, as I didn't pay a higher amount the first time and want my Patron label.   :lol:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 17, 2013, 09:48:59 am
Yes, you can do that. Thanks for your support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Infinitron on February 22, 2013, 06:11:40 pm
I've given you thirty dollars, VD. Use them wisely. ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 22, 2013, 06:43:07 pm
Many thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 22, 2013, 08:03:56 pm
Infinitron and a gentleman from Norway's orders bring us to 640 pre-orders and $20,111.

Thank you for you trust and support, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Infinitron on February 23, 2013, 07:59:50 am
Infinitron and a gentleman from Norway's orders bring us to 640 pre-orders and $20,111.

Thank you for you trust and support, guys.

When do I get my Patron of the Arts tag? :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 23, 2013, 08:10:02 am
Done.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 27, 2013, 03:52:39 pm
650 pre-orders:

United States   180
Russia   44
United Kingdom    38
Canada    36
Germany   35
Sweden    35
Australia   34
France   33
Finland   29
Poland   27
Norway    16
Denmark   15
Italy    15
Netherlands   10
Ukraine    10
Switzerland    8
Spain    6
Belgium   5
Brazil    5
Czech Republic   5
Israel   5
Croatia    4
Hungary   4
Slovenia   4
Austria   3
New Zealand   3
Turkey    3
Chile   2
China   2
Estonia   2
Hong Kong   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Japan   2
Lithuania   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Portugal   2
Singapore   2
Argentina   1
Bulgaria   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Greece   1
Ireland    1
Latvia   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Romania   1
Saudi Arabia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on February 27, 2013, 07:13:55 pm
Already 4 from Slovenia. Per capita that's pretty high.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 27, 2013, 11:29:52 pm
Is there a discount code for preordering?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dickie on February 28, 2013, 08:41:28 am
Is there a discount code for preordering?
Thanks. This made my morning.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 08:46:32 am
No, we don't offer any discounts. The way I see it, pre-ordering the game is about showing your support, assuming you liked the demo, of course, and feel that you were sufficiently entertained, not saving a few bucks.

I think that $25 is a fair price considering the scope of the game, but if you disagree, you can always torrent it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 09:11:06 am
Got our first pre-order from the Russian Ukrainian military.

 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: robaki on February 28, 2013, 09:16:01 am
Quote
Got our first pre-order from the Russian military.

it would be nice to get some feedback on combat difficulty :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 09:30:24 am
Well, I doubt that he would have pre-ordered the game had he failed to complete all military objectives. He probably thought that combat was too easy and is writing an angry letter demanding "Extreme Prejudice" difficulty mode as we speak.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 28, 2013, 09:33:12 am
No, we don't offer any discounts. The way I see it, pre-ordering the game is about showing your support, assuming you liked the demo, of course, and feel that you were sufficiently entertained, not saving a few bucks.

I think that $25 is a fair price considering the scope of the game, but if you disagree, you can always torrent it.
Heh. Yeah, I got that. It's just that I tried to make the payment using PayPal and I got the text box for the discount code. After pre-ordering with PayPal who I should contact for the purchase details? You?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 10:01:54 am
It's BMT's standard form. When you place an order, it will go through BMT's system. Sometimes it's instant, sometimes it can sit in their "pending orders" queue for a few days.

You should receive an email that looks like this:

"Thank you for your order!

Your order has been received and will be reviewed by a BMT Micro representative shortly.

This is simply an email confirming that your order was received properly and is in the first stages of being filled.

This does not mean that your payment has been processed or that your order has been approved.

If you placed your order using an anonymous email account such as hotmail.com your order will be reviewed
by a customer service representative prior to being completed.

There are several variables that affect how long it will take to complete your order.   BMT Micro acts as a fulfillment service for hundreds of developers and each product is handled separately.   If we are able to complete your purchase inhouse, you should expect to hear from us quickly.   If an order must be completed by the developer or vendor for that product please allow up to 48 hours.

Other items that can affect the time it takes to complete your order are:  payment verification and approval issues, incomplete address or phone information, etc.   In all cases we will attempt to contact you one time to complete the order properly."

Once the order is verified, you will be sent 2 more emails. One's a receipt, the other will contain the download links. At the moment, the file there is a placeholder. When the game is ready, it will replace the placeholder and you'll be able to download it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 28, 2013, 10:24:40 am
Yeah. I got that email. I'm going to wait for the BMT confirmation. Thanks.

Edit: I got the two remaining emails. I'm kinda surprised that this was fast, because when I pay with PayPal balance, it usually takes a few days to process the money.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 10:34:32 am
BMT's very good - fast, reliable, and have a great customer services (both when it comes to us and our customers).

Anyway, thank you for your patronage. Much appreciated.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Kosmonaut on February 28, 2013, 10:40:08 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: It Is All A Lies on February 28, 2013, 08:10:50 pm
Pre-ordered.

Been following the development since the codex days. That was fucking AGES AGO.

Can't wait to play through.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 28, 2013, 08:44:57 pm
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sir Walter Devonshire on March 05, 2013, 12:54:22 am
Hello i recently bought the game for $40 Who do i send the Filler character story to?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on March 05, 2013, 12:57:10 am
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2744.msg100730.html (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2744.msg100730.html)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 05, 2013, 07:22:07 am
Send it to me, please. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Octavian on March 12, 2013, 07:39:20 pm
Pre-ordered and the filler characters description will (hopefully) soon be on the way   :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 13, 2013, 06:44:04 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: vincentvega on March 14, 2013, 05:02:34 pm
mm..I promised myself to wait until the announce of the release date before buying it..but at last I couldn't keep up..preordered :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Juhnimus on March 14, 2013, 05:53:21 pm
Followed this game for years but registered forums after i pre-ordered it. Great demo.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 15, 2013, 01:42:35 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: pianistamoeba on March 15, 2013, 03:54:09 pm
Finally updated my mind-machine money processing to 21st century and pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on March 15, 2013, 04:37:40 pm
Thanks everyone! :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sir Walter Devonshire on March 17, 2013, 01:48:59 am
How do i go about getting the Patron of the motherfucking arts put before my name? (i've payed obviously) thanks


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on March 17, 2013, 06:43:45 am
How do i go about getting the Patron of the motherfucking arts put before my name? (i've payed obviously) thanks

Thanks for your support!

Quote from: First Post
-   $25 (pre-order) – will be listed and thanked in the credits
-   $30 (pre-order plus $5 extra) – will receive a nice, golden tag – Patron of the Motherfucking Arts (PM Nick your real name to receive it)
-   $40 (pre-order plus $15 extra) – you can create a filler character* for the game


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: OracleX on March 24, 2013, 03:16:54 pm
Pre-ordered  :smug:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 24, 2013, 03:19:32 pm
Thanks! This brings us to 703 pre-orders:

United States   189
Russia   49
Canada    43
Germany   40
Australia   39
United Kingdom    39
Sweden    36
France   35
Finland   32
Poland   28
Norway    18
Denmark   16
Italy    16
Netherlands   11
Ukraine    11
Switzerland    8
Brazil    6
Spain    6
Belgium   5
Czech Republic   5
Hungary   5
Israel   5
Croatia    4
New Zealand   4
Slovenia   4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Japan   3
Turkey    3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Greece   2
Hong Kong   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Lithuania   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Portugal   2
Singapore   2
Argentina   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Ireland    1
Kazakhstan   1
Latvia   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Romania   1
Saudi Arabia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Bhajho on March 26, 2013, 01:31:14 pm
Another pre-order for NZ!!  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 26, 2013, 01:36:16 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dogkiller on March 26, 2013, 08:07:39 pm
Another from Portugal.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Goral on March 27, 2013, 05:51:56 am
Poland +1.

It costed me 30.75 $. It's a shame that there was no way to go around the sales tax (23% in Poland) and pay for it in a more unofficial way. I would prefer to give you the extra 5.75 $.

Anyway, thanks for the game. I've really liked the demo (which I've mentioned a couple of times on RPG Codex).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dogkiller on March 27, 2013, 07:48:13 am
It costed me 30.75 $. It's a shame that there was no way to go around the sales tax (23% in Poland) and pay for it in a more unofficial way. I would prefer to give you the extra 5.75 $.
Same with me. 23% went to our state. :(
Well at least is good to know that we are not alone...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Anri on March 27, 2013, 08:39:12 am
You can always select Russia (or whatever you want) as your country in order not to pay VAT  :D
BMT is not steam and, if I remember correctly, they do not check your location.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: RandomName on March 27, 2013, 09:10:37 am
Pre-ordered.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Goral on March 27, 2013, 11:31:38 am
You can always select Russia (or whatever you want) as your country in order not to pay VAT  :D
BMT is not steam and, if I remember correctly, they do not check your location.
Didn't think sth like that was possible. It's too late now though :/. I'll suggest it to any Polak (Pole) willing to pre-order though.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Juhnimus on March 27, 2013, 12:17:10 pm
You can always select Russia (or whatever you want) as your country in order not to pay VAT  :D
BMT is not steam and, if I remember correctly, they do not check your location.
Didn't think sth like that was possible. It's too late now though :/. I'll suggest it to any Polak (Pole) willing to pre-order though. Anyway, thanks for the tip.

And thats why Europe is in bankruptcy. :lol:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SA_Avenger on March 31, 2013, 02:38:02 am
finally preordered as I was waiting for the gamersgate option :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: zhirzzh on March 31, 2013, 02:45:17 pm
I'm really happy we've exceeded the goal of 10-15k in pre-orders. It makes me feel good about how well the final game will sell.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 31, 2013, 05:17:18 pm
Thank you, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Volourn on March 31, 2013, 06:13:46 pm
Any word of a boxed version. I'd slop down $50 easily for one. :)


P.S. I read the first post but that is from April 2012 a whole year ago.

Edit: Just read the FAQ... says there's a boxed version.. expect monies soon..


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: woiq on April 05, 2013, 01:44:07 pm
+1 from Canada.Keep up the good work! :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ion Flux on April 10, 2013, 04:02:02 pm
Sorry it took me so long to pre-order, but I did it. You guys are still making this thing, right?   ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ceics on April 10, 2013, 05:09:20 pm
Yes by all means, please do not stop now.

There are still late-comers like me coming to the party, pushed maybe by this whole craze with the RPGs lately. Whether good (lol) or not, Kickstarter has set the standard high, so now you have to deliver a very good product. Right now it is more than just your reputation on the line, it is the absolute faith in the future of all old-school RPGs at stake here!  :)

So anyway, +1 from Romania, go finish and make us an exemplary game!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 10, 2013, 06:26:41 pm
Thank you, guys. We'll try not to disappoint.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 24, 2013, 01:51:33 pm
Just got a pre-order from Mogadishu, Somalia. Thanks.

Inspired by this wondrous event, I'll go type the April update and take some screens to go with it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on April 24, 2013, 02:02:10 pm
So soon? It's not even May yet! ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 24, 2013, 02:02:55 pm
Is it possible to have the monthly pre-order update?  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 24, 2013, 02:07:45 pm
739 pre-orders:

United States   202
Russia   51
Canada    44
United Kingdom    43
Australia   41
Germany   41
Sweden    38
France   35
Finland   32
Poland   30
Norway    19
Denmark   17
Italy    16
Netherlands   11
Ukraine    11
Switzerland    9
Belgium   6
Brazil    6
Hungary   6
Spain    6
Czech Republic   5
Israel   5
New Zealand   5
Croatia    4
Slovenia   4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Japan   3
Portugal   3
Turkey    3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Greece   2
Hong Kong   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Lithuania   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Romania   2
Singapore   2
Argentina   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Ireland    1
Kazakhstan   1
Latvia   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Saudi Arabia   1
Somalia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on April 24, 2013, 02:22:17 pm
Thanks  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Tommy on April 27, 2013, 07:50:15 pm
+1 from Ireland! Glad to see there's another Irish supporter.

Been following this game since you did an interview for RPS a few years ago. I played the demo for an hour - to be honest I was convinced in the first five minutes, the music is incredible.

Was there a cut-off point for getting your name in the credits?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 28, 2013, 07:29:26 am
Thanks! No, no cut-off point.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Morbus on April 28, 2013, 06:19:33 pm
Add another one from Portugal Vince! Much love and sorry it took me so long :(

Also, I still want the physical version. You guys are still doing it, right?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 28, 2013, 06:45:35 pm
Glad to see you again, Morbus. Thanks for the pre-order.

As for the boxed version, we'll place an order when the game's out (assuming that enough people will want it, of course).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on May 13, 2013, 06:40:01 am
you should consider to open a poll to let you know how many people would be interested by a boxed version.What would be the minimal demand to go for the boxed version campaign?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 13, 2013, 08:46:46 am
I'm not sure what the best way to handle it yet. Polls are sort of meaningless here. Basically, at some point we'd have to place an order for a boxed version (box, manual, and such). I'm not sure what the minimum is going to be yet. Ideally, 500, but could be as high as 5,000. Since we're planning to do it for the fans (i.e. not to make money on), the print quality is important and good quality usually demands a relatively high print volume.

Considering that we've sold 754 pre-orders to-date, I doubt that a poll would tell us much, so either way we'll have to wait until the game is out and there is more interest (assuming there is more interest; not being negative, just acknowledging that the possibility exists).

So, if the min is 5,000, we'd have to ask for the money upfront and be prepared to refund them if we won't get enough orders. If the min is 500, we can order them on our own and them sell to anyone who wants one and order more if we need to.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Revanous on May 14, 2013, 04:29:28 pm
Hey all, Amazing looking game I am going to pre order this tonight before I even get a chance at the demo...What  happened to amazing games like this?  I just wanted to see if this was still planning to be released in October or if there was a push.  I only recently found this game and I am addicted.  Thank you for contributing quality to the gaming verse. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on May 14, 2013, 06:39:01 pm
Thanks for the support! :D


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Elwro on May 15, 2013, 06:17:10 am
I will finally preorder today, I'm very sorry it took me so long. You are aware of the fact that the company handling the preorders sticks a 19% tax to the payment (ordering from Germany)? I'm asking because it's unusual - the only other case in which I've seen something like this was with Eschalon. I could buy games e.g. straight from Spiderweb Software (America) with no tax added; similarly with Steam, GamersGate and the like.

And even though I will be ordering from Germany, I'd like the preorder to count as coming from Poland (where I'll be back soon) :-)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 15, 2013, 06:35:53 am
Thanks, Elwro.

You get the tax because BMT follows the EU law and the EU, in its infinite wisdom, decided to slap VAT on all things "e-commerce". From BMT:

"The European Union passed a law requiring VAT on Electronically supplied services in 2003.   This includes any downloadable product.   BMT Micro is registered with the UK and assesses VAT based on the country in which the customer resides according to regulations.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120128212010/http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageOnlineServices_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000914&propertyType=document (http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120128212010/http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageOnlineServices_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000914&propertyType=document)

Basilisk Games shopping cart also charges VAT to EU customers (even his Plimus cart)."

The tax is tied to the country, in some cases it's as high as 21% (the Europeans surely like their taxes high).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Elwro on May 15, 2013, 06:48:02 am
Whoops. That's a shame. Thanks for the info, Vince!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: pidzi on May 15, 2013, 12:19:05 pm
I have a simple question: If i pre-order AoD will i be able to play the latest beta build? I mean not demo or such but the the game in development stages like has the games such Xenonauts or Underrail. Will i?

If yes im pre-ordering immediately coz the demo as assassin was GREAT and i was enjoying it a lot, you guys have my admiration.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on May 15, 2013, 01:15:52 pm
I have a simple question: If i pre-order AoD will i be able to play the latest beta build? I mean not demo or such but the the game in development stages like has the games such Xenonauts or Underrail. Will i?

If yes im pre-ordering immediately coz the demo as assassin was GREAT and i was enjoying it a lot, you guys have my admiration.

Not right now, but in the near future we will release the second city to backers of the game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: pidzi on May 15, 2013, 02:48:15 pm
I have a simple question: If i pre-order AoD will i be able to play the latest beta build? I mean not demo or such but the the game in development stages like has the games such Xenonauts or Underrail. Will i?

If yes im pre-ordering immediately coz the demo as assassin was GREAT and i was enjoying it a lot, you guys have my admiration.

Not right now, but in the near future we will release the second city to backers of the game.

Great news then, when it will come to this ill pre order it for sure.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: vincentvega on May 15, 2013, 04:32:53 pm

The tax is tied to the country, in some cases it's as high as 21% (the Europeans surely like their taxes high).


Like here in Italy! And I feel a little sorry I already pre-ordered paying 21%,'cause our next goal is to raise it to 22% next month, although our dream is 23%..we're working on it..


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 15, 2013, 04:39:49 pm
Why do they feel that taxes are the answer to every problem despite the examples pointing to the contrary? Look at Singapore - 17% corporate tax, 20% personal, VAT 7%.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on May 15, 2013, 06:46:09 pm
"As high as 21%"? It's 23% in Poland since 2011 (was 22% before).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dogkiller on May 16, 2013, 02:53:45 pm
Why do they feel that taxes are the answer to every problem despite the examples pointing to the contrary? Look at Singapore - 17% corporate tax, 20% personal, VAT 7%.
How else would our politicians afford all those expensive cars?

Its 23% here in Portugal (we are living the dream here, vicentvega). I thought that it was to keep us from importing more, but now it seems like a desperate measure.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: arkadiyn on May 20, 2013, 12:10:12 pm
this is certainly worth preodering! I am kind of happpy though that I only recently learnt about the game, and will be able to enjoy it after only a very reasonable wait. This is in no way meant as a critisism of developers - I am extremely imressed with what you were able to achive with minimal resources. If only I had a bit of your dedication, my carrer would probably be glorious:)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Titan357 on May 21, 2013, 03:20:11 pm
Ahhh yeah.

Does I got mah patron tag?

Edit.
I do.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Gauntt on May 25, 2013, 05:16:20 pm
Order placed. For some reason I thought I had done this ages ago.

But looks like I never completed it. Ah well. Fixed now.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on May 26, 2013, 05:47:13 am
Thanks! :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Morbus on May 31, 2013, 09:08:19 am
Why do they feel that taxes are the answer to every problem despite the examples pointing to the contrary? Look at Singapore - 17% corporate tax, 20% personal, VAT 7%.
How else would our politicians afford all those expensive cars?

Its 23% here in Portugal (we are living the dream here, vicentvega). I thought that it was to keep us from importing more, but now it seems like a desperate measure.
Tuga power and all that.

But I don't think I paid no 23% tax on my preorder, and in fact, I don't think I ever paid any taxes because I'm Portuguese for any online goods at all.

What gives?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: VladimirS on June 14, 2013, 10:27:04 am
Ordered from Belarus :) Haven't played demo yet, just read much about the game and like it. I'll wait till the final release to play the full version. Reading Vince interviews and the forum I have no doubts that the game worth seeing.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 14, 2013, 10:36:12 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Helz on June 19, 2013, 12:56:00 pm
Hi, I just heard about AoD two days ago.  I played through the demo as a Merc yesterday, and promptly preordered.  I'm about to dive back in and attempt to experiment with the more subtle ways to play, but to be honest with you that might just mean I swapped my poisoned spear/dagger for a big ass hammer  :lol:   
 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 19, 2013, 01:31:05 pm
Glad you liked it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: spiig on June 20, 2013, 12:04:07 pm
Thank-you for making this game! Just pre-ordered! Cannot wait to massacre my way through these elaborate cities  >:D  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 20, 2013, 02:17:03 pm
Thanks for your support, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: °_Rouge_Xvil on June 22, 2013, 03:01:37 am
Pre-ordered after playing this Owwwsome game all night, loving it guys :) Keep up the really good work !!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on June 22, 2013, 05:41:59 am
Thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Decay on July 02, 2013, 10:29:12 pm
1 in the States  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on July 02, 2013, 10:49:15 pm
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 03, 2013, 05:37:43 am
That brings us to 810 pre-orders:

United States   219
Russia   57
United Kingdom    48
Australia   46
Canada    45
Germany   44
France   40
Sweden    40
Finland   34
Poland   31
Norway    20
Denmark   17
Italy    16
Netherlands   14
Ukraine    12
Switzerland    9
Spain    7
Belgium   6
Brazil    6
Hungary   6
Croatia    5
Czech Republic   5
Israel   5
New Zealand   5
Portugal   5
Slovenia   4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Japan   3
Turkey    3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Greece   2
Hong Kong   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Ireland    2
Latvia   2
Lithuania   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Romania   2
Singapore   2
Argentina   1
Belarus   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Kazakhstan   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Saudi Arabia   1
Somalia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1
   
Other   12


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on July 03, 2013, 10:19:12 am
4 Slovenians? That's quite a lot, per capita (though not quite as high as the Scandinavians :salute:).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on July 03, 2013, 12:02:59 pm
I praise the guys from Somali and Namibia ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on July 03, 2013, 02:46:53 pm
I didn't even notice tthem.  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ergil on July 04, 2013, 11:11:19 am
What I don't get is how come there's only 3 Japanese.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 04, 2013, 12:20:31 pm
Prefer different kind of games maybe?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on July 04, 2013, 01:22:35 pm
What I don't get is how come there's only 3 Japanese.
Not enough schoolgirls in AoD.

(click to show/hide)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: BleedingScience on July 09, 2013, 08:30:28 pm
+1 pre-order for the states.

I was sold on this game even back when we all thought it'd look like an Avernum clone. Rumors of beta access for pre-orderers tempted me into breaking my "no pre-orders even if it's to save drunken babies" rule.

Hope you're happy. Now what excuse am I going to give those little bastards when they come 'round hitting me up for money again?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 10, 2013, 06:22:32 am
:lol:

Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Blessed on July 26, 2013, 03:40:17 am
I forget if there is a virtual receipt I could check. I can't seem to recall if I preordered the game or not.

Did a key come with pre order or was it a "you'll be emailed a method to download" sort of thing?

If I can't sort this out before launch, cheers and I'll probably end up buying the game again (or the first time?) anyway!



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 26, 2013, 07:00:41 am
When you pre-order, BMT (the payment processor) emails you a receipt and a download link. The file is a placeholder. When the game is ready, the content of the file (a 'thank you' note) will be replaced with the full game.

If you PM me the email you might have used to pre-order and/or your name, I can check if your order is in the database.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: wawdbuhton on July 27, 2013, 12:25:28 pm
Ordered. Good luck and hope the game is a tremendous success.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 27, 2013, 02:23:52 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cacaro on July 30, 2013, 11:33:44 am
+1 pre-order from Italy.

Keep up the great work, guys.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 30, 2013, 11:44:39 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Blessed on July 31, 2013, 07:31:12 am
Pre Ordered a second time because I had a bit of extra money hanging around :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 31, 2013, 07:48:45 am
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on July 31, 2013, 09:48:52 am
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Mephi on August 05, 2013, 03:53:51 am
When?! :wallbang:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on August 05, 2013, 05:36:58 am
Perhaps in October. You know, much testing and polishing is vital for a good game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Etrium on August 05, 2013, 09:31:34 pm
Finally got around to pre-order this awesome game.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 05, 2013, 09:46:12 pm
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Etrium on August 07, 2013, 09:53:04 pm
I should be thanking you guys for this high quality game.

I getting really burned out by mainstream gaming as of lately. It's nice and refreshing to see something different once and a while. Yeah sure it's hard and you might die a lot but, you just gotta suck it up and try again. Just like the old adventure games where you have to figure out where you went wrong.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Argoyne on August 10, 2013, 05:38:17 pm
Out of interest you/bmt won't be using the email address that I used for the purchase again? That email address just went dark. (I guess thumbing your nose at the US government isn't sufficient a response to them demanding back doors into your servers)

I have the emails from bmt at the time of purchase backed up so its just if there is any future correspondence that might head in that direction.

Sorry if this is addressed some where.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 10, 2013, 06:24:37 pm
You have nothing to worry about it. The email you provided might be used to notify you when the game is out (not sure how BMT handles such things), but it's not a critical part of the equation. Even if you lose the email account and the confirmation email, PM me (when the game is out) and I'll send you a brand new link/key to the email of your choice.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Argoyne on August 10, 2013, 08:03:59 pm
Cheers, I figured as much but the peace of mind is nice.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 15, 2013, 05:23:36 pm
850 pre-orders. We've extended our global reach to Indonesia and Saudi Arabia!

United States    233
Russia   60
United Kingdom    51
Canada    48
Australia   47
Germany   44
France   43
Sweden    40
Finland   35
Poland   31
Norway    21
Denmark   17
Italy    17
Netherlands   14
Ukraine    12
Switzerland    9
Brazil    7
Hungary   7
Spain    7
Belgium   6
Croatia    5
Czech Republic   5
Israel   5
New Zealand   5
Portugal   5
Slovenia   4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Japan   3
Saudi Arabia   3
Singapore   3
Turkey    3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Greece   2
Hong Kong   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Ireland    2
Latvia   2
Lithuania   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Romania   2
Argentina   1
Belarus   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Indonesia   1
Kazakhstan   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Somalia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on August 16, 2013, 02:00:33 am
Keep in mind many people use proxies and/or don't share their real data.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fedex on August 20, 2013, 10:45:48 am
This was probably answered a hundred times but still, will it be possible for those who preorder to get a key for either Steam or GOG once this game will be available there? Thanks


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on August 20, 2013, 11:14:19 am
This was probably answered a hundred times but still, will it be possible for those who preorder to get a key for either Steam or GOG once this game will be available there? Thanks

Yep, it's possible :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Fedex on August 20, 2013, 12:46:51 pm
preordered; +1 for Slovenia  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dragatus on August 20, 2013, 01:51:52 pm
Bravo naši! :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vahha on August 20, 2013, 01:58:00 pm
I've never been to Slovenia, but merely after hanging out with a bunch of Slovenians in Sweden I fell in love with this hen-shaped land, on the basis of their stories and how cheerful they were :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Longinus on September 03, 2013, 10:49:51 am
Wanted to drop 40 bucks, suddenly I found out that I have to dish out 40 + 23% (VAT in Poland) $. Not cool. When I buy something on-line I would expect that all taxes are included in gross price.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 03, 2013, 11:02:44 am
That's because you live in the enlightened European Union. In North America digital goods aren't taxed. The EU decided that it's a missed opportunity, so BMT Micro has no choice but to abide by the rules.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on September 12, 2013, 05:05:16 am
Finally got around to patronizing some Motherfucking Arts.

Now I just gotta hold out till Thursday.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 12, 2013, 05:43:31 am
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Adder on September 13, 2013, 05:59:56 pm
Pre-ordered. That's +1 for Lithuania


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 13, 2013, 06:11:01 pm
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: vahadar on September 17, 2013, 05:57:29 am
Hello,

I made a first pre order on the 14th of august for the 24.30€ package : BMT Micro Order Receipt (5873248)
I just made another preorder today not knowing how to just donate to match the 40$ level :)
BMT Micro Order Receipt (5907049) for 24.17€ (thanks to currency fluctuation^^)

Could you merge those 2 orders so i'm considered as "Patron of the Motherfucking Arts" ? Will this allow me to make a "filler character" for the game since i'm above the 40$?

Thank you in advance!

edit : oh and its +1 for France for your list ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 17, 2013, 06:18:52 am
Not a problem. Thank you for your patronage.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: zhirzzh on September 19, 2013, 03:34:40 am
So, I assume you've passed your upper goal of raising 15k by now?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 19, 2013, 07:32:44 am
884 pre-orders, $26,936, avg price $30.47.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: shaf on September 23, 2013, 10:16:42 am
Just Pre-ordered BMT Invoice # 5913930.

Cheers

Shaf


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 23, 2013, 11:14:43 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: toniwa on September 24, 2013, 01:31:08 am
884 pre-orders, $26,936, avg price $30.47.

This might be a good indication of how much money are people willing to give away for a game these days.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Darkthia on September 24, 2013, 11:03:54 am
I think it might be a better indicator of the popularity of the "Patron of the motherfucking arts" tag  ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vitas on September 25, 2013, 08:57:37 am
It seems that the state bureaucracy does work after all, today I received a tax return, although several months late, so what better thing to do with this unexpected windfall than to preorder this piece of motherfucking art. Now let's' see if Thursday arrives this year;)

Keep up the good work guys, glad that I could show my support in a more substantial way (aka $).


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 25, 2013, 09:49:42 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on September 25, 2013, 09:55:04 am
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Bjorne Fellhanded on September 25, 2013, 12:51:15 pm
I feel incredibly lucky to have discovered this game.

Todays 'production values' leave much to be desired and to find an indie company making an amazing production with some old school concepts like integrity and honesty is just a balm to the soul. Congratulations on an amazing product thus far and I hope your careers are as rewarding the entire way. Thoroughly impressed and I thank you for it.

So damn refreshing to have your faith in humanity refreshed from time to time. I play Mechwarrior online and the communication and delivery difference between the companies is just mind blowing. I hope when this releases you are lauded as you so thoroughly deserve.

Pre-order +1 for the colonies (Australia)  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 25, 2013, 01:06:25 pm
Thanks, Bjorne. There's nothing more rewarding than seeing people enjoy something you made for them. Glad you liked the demo.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on September 25, 2013, 03:35:43 pm
Thanks for your kind words =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 29, 2013, 06:57:05 pm
900 pre-orders!

United States   245
Russia   64
United Kingdom    56
Canada    51
Australia   49
France   47
Germany   46
Sweden    40
Finland   37
Poland   31
Norway    23
Italy    18
Denmark   17
Netherlands   15
Ukraine    13
Switzerland    10
Brazil    7
Hungary   7
Spain    7
Belgium   6
Czech Republic   6
Slovenia   6
Croatia    5
Israel   5
New Zealand   5
Portugal   5
Turkey    4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Hong Kong   3
Japan   3
Lithuania   3
Romania   3
Saudi Arabia   3
Singapore   3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Greece   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Ireland    2
Latvia   2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Argentina   1
Belarus   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Cyprus   1
Indonesia   1
Kazakhstan   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Somalia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1
   
Other   18



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Xohandu on September 30, 2013, 04:53:56 pm
Just pre-ordered looking forward to playing the full game!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on September 30, 2013, 05:09:20 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: taj on October 02, 2013, 11:42:45 am
Love the atmosphere, the approach and the game, :approve:

like a breath of fresh air, amidst of Diablo clones, Gothic/ElderScrolls/MassEffect clones etc.  :panic:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 02, 2013, 01:31:29 pm
 :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: FireLite on October 03, 2013, 02:07:40 pm
Just played trough the demo as a thief and I must say, what a joy! This is the first game in a long time I really felt my choices mattered. 

Pre-ordered right away!

Looking forward to the release, thank you.

-FireLite


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nahel on October 07, 2013, 09:46:10 am
+1 for France. Keep on, this the sort of games we want to see. A true story and roleplay choices!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Olin on October 13, 2013, 07:37:53 am
+1 for Poland. The demo blew me away. I've never seen so many C&C and that is what I'm looking for in any story driven game. Also, the theme is very interesting, especially the sort of ancient Rome timeframe.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 13, 2013, 08:25:05 am
Thanks, guys. Your support is much appreciated.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nedeuss on October 13, 2013, 03:53:07 pm
+1 germany


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Deckardt on October 14, 2013, 12:44:29 pm
+1 for Italy
is it planned any intermediate release or new open beta?

keep up the good work


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 14, 2013, 01:14:38 pm
An extended demo (about 60% of the game's content) will be released at the end of the month:

There are three towns (in total) in the game. That's where all the scheming, plotting, and back-stabbing take place. So, from this point of view, each town is roughly 33% of all that goodness. There are 20 locations in the game. The first demo (the first 'chapter') had 3 locations: Teron (the starting town), the raiders' camp, and the mine.

The upcoming release (the second 'chapter') has 7 locations: Maadoran (a large city), the Abyss, the tomb, the mountain pass, the Ordu camp, the tower of Zamedi, and another raiders' camp. So, that's 10, which is 50%. If you like exploring old places that should have stayed buried (similar to the tower and the Abyss), the endgame is where it's at.

Thank you for your pre-order.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ugralitan on October 16, 2013, 12:00:55 pm
Recently noticed the game by chance, when looking through Gamers Gate. The game will appear on Steam Early Access? If so, when will it happen.

If we pre-order the game, will we have steam keys as well? It really makes things neat to keep games under one library.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on October 16, 2013, 12:23:49 pm
Recently noticed the game by chance, when looking through Gamers Gate. The game will appear on Steam Early Access? If so, when will it happen.

If we pre-order the game, will we have steam keys as well? It really makes things neat to keep games under one library.

Yes, we will provide Steam keys for people who pre-order through our site.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ugralitan on October 16, 2013, 01:09:07 pm
Then +1 for Turkey. Cheers.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on October 16, 2013, 01:35:58 pm
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Tofus on October 24, 2013, 07:15:42 am
+1 for Denmark also. Been following you guys for the past few years now, played the combat demo, and like the second demo even more. Can't wait for the game to finally arrive  8-)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: jammis on October 25, 2013, 09:27:05 pm
+1 from the States just pre-ordered, can't wait. How do I get all up in that extended demo?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on October 26, 2013, 06:25:20 am
Thank you, gentlemen. A very detailed post of where and how you can acquire the backer's build will appear before we release it. We'll probably also email you too, so you don't have any chance to miss it =)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: hivemind on October 30, 2013, 03:55:34 am
This might be a dumb quesiton but I just want to be sure. Will it be possible to pre-order and get access to the exended demo even after the initial release of the demo?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 30, 2013, 06:09:57 am
Yes, of course.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: [R] on November 01, 2013, 06:38:02 pm
Today I went to check placeholder link to see if you guys released R4 yet and I'm getting "The password is blocked" error.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 01, 2013, 07:56:15 pm
I guess too many people downloaded the placeholder multiple times and BMT flagged it as suspicious behavior and locked the accounts. I'd suggest to email them as we have no control over such things. We can always give you (and anyone else who's having problems) a private link once the demo is released, so we *will* ensure that anyone who pre-ordered will get the demo, but if you want the BMT link to work, talk to them.

For the record, we aren't the type to upload early and sit on it while writing pretty press-releases and contacting the media. The moment we have the final build, we'll upload it and make an announcement. So, no announcement - no demo in the placeholder file.

We *are* getting close. 99% of issues - bugs, flow, transition, balance, etc are fixed. We gave the testers build #11 yesterday and are planning to give them the final release candidate tomorrow and let them test the balance throughout the weekend. If they say it's a go, then it's a go. If they uncover more issues, then it's a no-go.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Elegro on November 03, 2013, 09:50:01 am
We *are* getting close. 99% of issues - bugs, flow, transition, balance, etc are fixed. We gave the testers build #11 yesterday and are planning to give them the final release candidate tomorrow and let them test the balance throughout the weekend. If they say it's a go, then it's a go. If they uncover more issues, then it's a no-go.

Thanks for the update. It never ceases to impress me how much effort you put into the quality of this game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 03, 2013, 10:46:53 am
It's the only thing that matters.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: trollmann on November 04, 2013, 09:11:32 am
Thanks for amazing game (just demo).
+1 for Russia.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 04, 2013, 09:42:04 am
Thank you for your support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Shoo on November 06, 2013, 02:17:46 am
Thanks and +1 for Russia
I hope a filler character option is available yet.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: vroon on November 06, 2013, 09:17:43 am
Many thanks and looking forward to the game. Just pre-ordered, can't wait!  :P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 06, 2013, 12:34:27 pm
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Syroc on November 06, 2013, 03:06:36 pm
Might as well join in on this...

+1 for Norway! Looks great, and looking forward to seeing it finished!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vagabond on November 06, 2013, 07:22:08 pm
Could we have some information preorders/countries list, please?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 06, 2013, 07:26:27 pm
981 in total.

United States   267
Russia   71
United Kingdom    61
Canada    58
Australia   53
France   51
Germany   47
Sweden    43
Finland   39
Poland   32
Norway    25
Denmark   19
Italy    19
Netherlands   16
Ukraine    14
Switzerland    10
Spain    9
Brazil    7
Hungary   7
Turkey    7
Belgium   6
Czech Republic   6
Slovenia   6
Croatia    5
Israel   5
New Zealand   5
Portugal   5
Romania   4
Austria   3
Estonia   3
Hong Kong   3
Ireland    3
Japan   3
Latvia   3
Lithuania   3
Saudi Arabia   3
Singapore   3
Bulgaria   2
Chile   2
China   2
Cyprus   2
Greece   2
Iceland   2
India    2
Malaysia   2
Malta   2
Argentina   1
Belarus   1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Indonesia   1
Kazakhstan   1
Namibia    1
Peru   1
Philippines   1
Serbia   1
Slovak Republic   1
Somalia   1
South Africa   1
United Arab Emirates   1

Other 25


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Brandon on November 06, 2013, 10:54:53 pm
So close to 1000!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Syroc on November 07, 2013, 07:18:19 am
I just know this is going to sound silly, but I thought I'd just ask to be sure: when Vince said they were 99% done, he meant for the extended demo, right? Not the complete game? 'Cause that's what I'd thought. (Even while secretly hoping for the latter.)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 07, 2013, 07:30:58 am
For the extended demo, unfortunately. A lot is done for the last third of the game, so we aren't starting from scratch, but it will take 4-5 months to go through a few iterations and get it to where we want it to be.

My apologies for the inconvenience, but it will be worth it in the end. It's tempting (very tempting) to say 'who cares, it's the last third, surely it's good enough, so let's push it out the door and make some money', but we want it to shine, so fuck money?

PS. So, I was talking to Oscar last night while we were testing the final build and he had this great idea for the bridge location. We've shown it in the past, so you can find it somewhere if you want to, but basically, it's too simple. It has some options, but overall it's kinda meh. Not memorable enough, not interesting enough. So, he had this great idea about how to turn it into a much bigger and better location. You gonna love it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on November 07, 2013, 07:42:45 am
I guess the given number concerns only preorder on ITS.Other preoders from elsewhere (like Gamers Gate IE) are taking in account for this list?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 07, 2013, 07:59:05 am
'Other' at the bottom.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: vo1chonok on November 07, 2013, 10:45:09 am
Thank you for a brilliant game. +1 for Russia.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 07, 2013, 10:46:24 am
Thank you for the support.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Syroc on November 07, 2013, 03:43:38 pm
Ah, cool! Only found out about this game recently, so I wasn't all too sure what was happening. (And I wanted to avoid digging through threads to find out, really.) Glad to hear you guys are putting a lot of work into this, because what I've played so far is fantastic!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on November 14, 2013, 06:28:42 am
One more french agent of decadence  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Mereth on November 14, 2013, 09:43:25 pm
Hi Vince, just pre-ordered this week so you can +1 from USA.
I wanted to say also that I've been following your online presence for quite some time (both here and on the 'Dex) and truly appreciate the commitment, beyond words, that you have shown to what remains a deadened genre. Just don't forget your community obligation to write humorously accurate reviews of Bioware and Bethesda games.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2013, 08:46:43 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: likaq on November 15, 2013, 02:25:41 pm
24 hours have passed since 'early access' launch. AoD is currently at 19th place of the best selling crpg's on steam  :approve:. How's sales Vince?  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2013, 02:33:54 pm
No idea, we don't have the access to the sales data yet.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Tommy on November 15, 2013, 02:43:07 pm
Removing visibility of Early Access games on the home page was a bit of a cruel blow.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: likaq on November 15, 2013, 02:44:05 pm
No idea, we don't have the access to the sales data yet.

Thanks for your quick reply.  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2013, 02:50:08 pm
287 copies sold.

Quote
... AoD is currently at 19th place of the best selling crpg

Considering how well RPGs sell sounds about right.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: zakkari on November 15, 2013, 02:54:00 pm
Hi,

Partial French translation is it included in steam version?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2013, 02:58:00 pm
No, only English. We don't have the resources to do any proper localization. We do have a fan-driven translation project, but as far as I know it hasn't been completed yet.

http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3156.0.html (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3156.0.html)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SniperHF on November 15, 2013, 03:45:29 pm
287 copies sold.


Figure a thousand in over a year BMT and 287 in a day. 

Are you able to tell how many demo downloads on the steam page?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 15, 2013, 03:46:42 pm
309 people downloaded the demo (5 people bought the game after). 303 bought the game.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SniperHF on November 15, 2013, 05:37:25 pm
309 people downloaded the demo (5 people bought the game after). 303 bought the game.

Wonder how many of those 309 were people who had issues with it last night before it uploaded. 


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ERYFKRAD on November 15, 2013, 10:29:54 pm
Bought.
Finally. :salute:

This is gonna be worth it so.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 16, 2013, 09:31:39 am
Demo downloads    694    (unique users)
Conversions    23
Conversion rate    3.3%
Current players    27


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cutterjohn on November 17, 2013, 06:12:19 pm
Recently noticed the game by chance, when looking through Gamers Gate. The game will appear on Steam Early Access? If so, when will it happen.

If we pre-order the game, will we have steam keys as well? It really makes things neat to keep games under one library.

Yes, we will provide Steam keys for people who pre-order through our site.
I pre-ordered last January through your site -> BMT Micro.. no key so far, although back then all I got to download was a zip with a "placeholder" text file...

BTW: Hiya Vince... Volourn show up yet?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Niektory on November 17, 2013, 06:59:16 pm
I pre-ordered last January through your site -> BMT Micro.. no key so far, although back then all I got to download was a zip with a "placeholder" text file...
You can request your key here (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3516.0.html). Also, the same link that pointed to the placeholder now points to the extended demo.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: cutterjohn on November 17, 2013, 07:58:01 pm
I pre-ordered last January through your site -> BMT Micro.. no key so far, although back then all I got to download was a zip with a "placeholder" text file...
You can request your key here (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3516.0.html). Also, the same link that pointed to the placeholder now points to the extended demo.
thx.  Vince caught it and PMed me a key(Thanks yet again Vince... apparently yet another dev that doesn't need to eat/sleep/etc.).  Anyways right after/during that post I had re-dled the BMT link and got a <something> beta 2 IIRC(also 11/13 date IIRC), but I've uninstalled now and am letting the steamier version install.  (I am SO HAPPY that this got onto steam v. having to track forum/BMT all the time...)

*cough* I guess sorry about missing the request thread, but I was kind of surprised that it popped up on steam when I went to look at what was new in RPGs, and *cough* had sorta forgotten about this, as I've well been doing non-RPG stuff(X-Rebirth(I'd wait a while on this if you like space sim/X games) and BF4(1st BF game that I've tried, figured it'd be a good workout for the new hw toy(780 Ti, yeah yeah planned on 780 or Titan b4 but the Ti was so close and well AMD(ATI really) can't write sw to save their lives as in crapalyst is well crap...))...


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: SniperHF on November 25, 2013, 04:30:59 pm
309 people downloaded the demo (5 people bought the game after). 303 bought the game.

Demo downloads    694    (unique users)
Conversions    23
Conversion rate    3.3%
Current players    27

So what's the latest  :approve:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on November 25, 2013, 06:41:45 pm
309 people downloaded the demo (5 people bought the game after). 303 bought the game.

Demo downloads    694    (unique users)
Conversions    23
Conversion rate    3.3%
Current players    27

So what's the latest  :approve:

Downloads    3,509    (unique users)
Conversions    210
Conversion rate    6.0%
Current players    27


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Dogar on November 25, 2013, 11:11:43 pm
After playing the Maadoran demo, I thought about going back to my filler character and adding/tweaking a bit more based on what I learned about Maadoran and the Ordu, etc.  Is it too late to play around with the filler characters we sent out?  If not, then when might be a good time to wrap it up?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 26, 2013, 07:23:07 am
You have a month or two, I'd say, so go ahead and do it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: likaq on November 26, 2013, 11:12:38 am
It would be cool if you would tell us some sales figures when you reach a milestone. Maybe at every 1K or 2K?.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on November 26, 2013, 11:15:29 am
Sure, in the upcoming update.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Xarg on December 04, 2013, 08:31:08 am
Just ordered. If you are interested I live in hungary not in Russia :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 04, 2013, 08:34:06 am
Thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Flexie on December 08, 2013, 05:04:32 pm
I bought the early release on steam. Is that like doing the pre-order, is the early access the same as the extended demo (R4)? Thank you!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 08, 2013, 05:22:06 pm
Yep, it's the same build. Steam and BMT builds will be updated at the same time too.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Saevus on December 11, 2013, 07:34:01 pm
+1 for Canada. Absolutely delighted by the new content and breadth of options, gold-standard work so far.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on December 11, 2013, 08:09:52 pm
:salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Leewelo on January 04, 2014, 02:12:51 pm
I finally got around to playing the demo... and pre-ordered :-D.
Some more support from France.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 05, 2014, 08:25:55 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: just_zombie on February 03, 2014, 10:02:45 am
 Played demo a bit, liked it, so pre-ordered.
Good luck in further polishing this game.
Add + one from Ukraine to statistic, would you.  :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 03, 2014, 12:22:08 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Bsadzewicz on February 04, 2014, 11:03:52 pm
picked it up on steam early-access you're doing an excellent job so far can't wait for the full release :D love the way combat is and how it's not always the most promising avenue to go, plus I love playing the assassin and only using daggers+ throwing daggers as im always a fan of the stealthy way as well as Finesse combat (I view daggers as finesse since realistically against an armored target with a dagger you have to go for all the weak spots in the armor like armpit joints etc.)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: The Bad Guy on February 12, 2014, 01:56:16 pm
Is update #2 applied to BMT Micro Orders?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 12, 2014, 03:51:10 pm
Yes.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: The Bad Guy on February 12, 2014, 04:46:44 pm
Yes.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: unforbidable on February 27, 2014, 06:45:48 am
More support from Czech Republic. :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 27, 2014, 07:24:18 am
Thanks!

Update: As of Jan 31: 6,775 copies sold

United States   2,446
United Kingdom    604
Canada    586
Russia   488
Australia   397
Germany   386
Sweden    315
France   257
Finland   151
Norway    137
Denmark   112
Poland   91
Italy    86
Netherlands   84
Turkey    57
Brazil    42
Ukraine    37
Spain    35
Saudi Arabia   32
New Zealand   30
Switzerland    27
Belgium   26
Austria   24
Czech Republic   24
Korea   18
Israel   17
Singapore   15
Belarus   14
Japan   14
Greece   13
Hungary   13
Ireland    12
Lithuania   12
Portugal   12
Croatia    10
Hong Kong   10
Romania   10
Iceland   8
Slovenia   8
South Africa   8
China   7
Thailand   7
Bulgaria   6
Kazakhstan   6
Malaysia   6
Slovakia   6
Latvia   5
Malta   5
Mexico   5
United Arab Emirates   5
Chile   4
Argentina   3
Cyprus   3
Estonia   3
India    3
Indonesia   3
Luxemburg   3
Serbia   3
Taiwan   3
Gibraltar   2
Jordan    2
Peru   2
Uruguay   2
Azerbaijan   1
Bahrain    1
Canary Islands    1
Colombia   1
Costa Rica   1
Dominica   1
Faroe Islands   1
Greenland   1
Kuwait   1
Namibia    1
Philippines   1
Somalia   1
Uzbekistan    1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: jonsnow on March 02, 2014, 09:35:05 am
I bought it today.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: wiande on March 02, 2014, 09:42:22 am
I don't wanna be a troll here, but how come the steam price and your preorder price aren't the same ?
Also didn't know you got a 19.6% vat (hate vat)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 02, 2014, 11:28:29 am
The Steam price in dollars is the same, but Steam uses different rates to convert to other currencies, which we have no control over. So, in Russia, for example, the game will be sold for less without any promotions or discounts on our part.

As for the VAT it's charged not by us but by BMT in accordance to the EU laws. Changing the country will change the VAT %. For example, changing it to US or Canada will result in 0 tax because we don't believe in sales tax on digital goods.



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: jonsnow on March 05, 2014, 05:56:45 pm


As for the VAT it's charged not by us but by BMT in accordance to the EU laws. Changing the country will change the VAT %. For example, changing it to US or Canada will result in 0 tax because we don't believe in sales tax on digital goods.



vince a good merchant guild member would charge their own tax ;)

so how many have you sold now? the last post on it was about a week ago.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 05, 2014, 07:55:14 pm
About 8,000 copies.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: jbp26 on March 06, 2014, 10:39:12 am
i vaguely remember an old post where you said you would need to sell ~10,000 units for AoD to be successful enough to keep on developing games full time. is this still the case? if so, its pretty exciting that you might hit that milestone on preorders alone.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pol Vetosh on March 08, 2014, 02:29:23 am
I think it's safe to say it'll climb up to at least 20k. Which is cool :) Luck to ya.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 09, 2014, 12:07:56 pm
i vaguely remember an old post where you said you would need to sell ~10,000 units for AoD to be successful enough to keep on developing games full time. is this still the case? if so, its pretty exciting that you might hit that milestone on preorders alone.
The future definitely looks brighter now.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: GhanBuriGhan on March 20, 2014, 03:38:34 am
i vaguely remember an old post where you said you would need to sell ~10,000 units for AoD to be successful enough to keep on developing games full time. is this still the case? if so, its pretty exciting that you might hit that milestone on preorders alone.
The future definitely looks brighter now.
Great to hear! I hope once it goes out of early access, you will see another good boost in sales. There are still people out there that hate Steam, but when I see how much early access has helped many indie projects, I think they have had a big positive influence on the diversity of the PC gaming market in the last few years. Together with Kickstarter it looks like an entirely different ecosystem for small and indie RPG developers than all those years ago when AoD started out.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: madkeeper on April 01, 2014, 11:38:46 am
Pre-order in BTM Micro, downloaded. The archive is R4.4, while on Steam - R4.5. Will the updated content archive at BTM Micro?

PS Sorry for my bad English, Google-translate :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 01, 2014, 12:27:19 pm
My apologies, we were overloaded in March, give us a few more days and we'll fix it. In the meantime, let me know if you want a Steam key.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sleet on April 09, 2014, 04:55:50 pm
Did the pre-order as well, but do not have the latest archive. Steam key would do as well.
Nice to see the light getting brighter at the end of the tunnel.
Much appreciated!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Grimshot on May 15, 2014, 09:18:20 pm
Add another to the list of pre-orderers. I look forward to seeing what you guys come up with after you finish AoD.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 16, 2014, 05:28:59 am
Thank you.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pladio on July 24, 2014, 02:19:31 pm
Hello,

Would you be willing to release the latest sales figures ?
It's quite interesting to know how much help Steam Early access would have been...
Especially since most of the game is out by now.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 24, 2014, 04:35:36 pm
9,794 copies sold (overall) as of July 12.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Pladio on July 25, 2014, 12:37:17 am
Since you're getting close to the 10k mark, I assume that's good :)

Do you have a personal target for when the game is fully released (+1 month or so).

I assume getting to 12,000 should be feasible because there are still several months for the game to be finished.

After that I guess releasing on GOG as well would help in addition to future Steam and GOG sales ?


Title: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: mastromanos on July 26, 2014, 02:33:58 am
I just bought a copy in steam. I played your beta a year ago and I was truly amazed by the content, the depth and quality of your game. I wish I could buy ten more times. It is truly a wonderful game and something that it is truly missing from the gaming scene, especially in the RPG department. I am looking forward to the full completion of your game and to your next work.

Kudos to all the developers


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on July 26, 2014, 06:48:34 am
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Oscar on July 26, 2014, 10:58:38 am
Thank you!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ank on August 29, 2014, 01:25:37 pm
Damn it guys, u just had to be ones to make a game i couldn't resist ... well guess it was bound to happen a few times till i get too old to hold a mouse (btw i'm usually going for pirated game copies to actually get a firm grip on the quality of the game's mechanics and difficulty scaling; afterwards i buy it if 'i like what i see' ,otherwise i erase the thing and just stare blankly into space wondering for how long will the entire industry insist on exclusively serving use interactive movies marketed as groundbreaking 3XA gaming titles just to please the 5 year olds & the average (idiot) Joe.  

So... today i just bought yr game and that says a lot: i'm the kind of guy that rarely considers anything but dungeons and dragons based games complex and hard core enough to be worth playing(i was directed yr way by a fellow's 'temple of elemental evil' forum post(go figure u even got traction in the DnD camp))

Its so rare and refreshing to actually encounter a game where: u are not superman and 2 thugs are all it takes to send u to an early grave; no mater what char build u take theres a draw back(block vs doge and armor&weapon type&abilities... those are brilliantly done)
About graphics and sound... theyr above adequate as far as i'm concerned (then again i'm a hardcore gamer not a darn tourist/artist and can't be bothered to care about eye/ear candy)
About your demo: long enough to showcase the complexity and brutality of yr game ...

PS: i'm a linux freak so when the final version comes don't be shy about a native version for use
PPS: the game runs flawless for me under a 64bit arch linux 3.16.x kernel with wine 1.7.x using: nouveau driver(not joking) , directx9full and these parameters: glsl enabled, pbuffer offscreen render mode , reddraw render target mode lock.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on August 29, 2014, 07:11:04 pm
Thanks!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ninjelephant on December 11, 2014, 04:27:17 pm
Over 10k?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on December 11, 2014, 05:40:30 pm
11,369 copies overall.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: ninjelephant on December 24, 2014, 05:40:40 am
Great news! Keep in mind that there are probably a lot of stubborn bastards like myself waiting for the full release before purchasing  ;)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Shady314 on December 26, 2014, 02:25:03 am
Great news! Keep in mind that there are probably a lot of stubborn bastards like myself waiting for the full release before purchasing  ;)
Guilty.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Rostere on January 21, 2015, 05:16:35 am
So, uh, I might be just a little late to the party, but is it still possible to obtain the "patron of the motherfucking arts" tag through pre-ordering here?

I'd easily pay up a lot more than $40 to just name a filler NPC (in a manner which suits the in-game lore) as well :) I consider it a matter of honor to support this game  :salute:


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 21, 2015, 08:40:22 am
So, uh, I might be just a little late to the party, but is it still possible to obtain the "patron of the motherfucking arts" tag through pre-ordering here?
Sure, why not?

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I'd easily pay up a lot more than $40 to just name a filler NPC (in a manner which suits the in-game lore) as well :) I consider it a matter of honor to support this game  :salute:
Thank you. I won't take your money just to name an NPC, but if you want to write one (with or without my help) or at least come up with a concept, I'll be happy to.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Silverhawk on January 23, 2015, 07:45:20 am
Hi. I played the public Beta and was very impressed from your work. I had to preorder it. :D

One question:
I preordered it via BMT. Will the downloadlinks expire after some time?
I had the experience with other games that the links expired after some time on BMT and you had to ask if you can get new links. This isn't a proper solution in my opinion. But I also don't want to download it via Steam. I hate DRM.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on January 23, 2015, 08:26:55 am
Hi. I played the public Beta and was very impressed from your work. I had to preorder it. :D
Thank you.

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I preordered it via BMT. Will the downloadlinks expire after some time?
I had the experience with other games that the links expired after some time on BMT and you had to ask if you can get new links. This isn't a proper solution in my opinion. But I also don't want to download it via Steam. I hate DRM.
I think that most people don't have any problems but we did get a couple of "my link expired" requests out of a 1,000+ orders. I'm not sure what triggers them (we didn't set any limit or restrictions on our end, as far as we're concerned you should have an option to download it at any time to any number of computers).

If your link does expire me, send me a quick PM ("new link plz" will do) and I'll send you a new one within a day. Apologies for the inconvenience.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Goral on February 05, 2015, 09:11:20 am
http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2584.msg114229.html#msg114229 (http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2584.msg114229.html#msg114229)
Do you have the current data that you could share? I'm curious how many Poles bought it.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 05, 2015, 02:44:38 pm
Total 12,141

United States   4,470
United Kingdom    1,057
Canada    936
Russia   921
Germany   757
Australia   730
France   466
Sweden    459
Norway    238
Finland   235
Denmark   170
Netherlands   163
Italy    137
Brazil    134
Poland   123
Austria   82
Spain    81
New Zealand   74
Belgium   72
Turkey    71
Switzerland    67
Ukraine    55
Singapore   44
Czech Republic   42
Saudi Arabia   36
Korea   34
Ireland    31
Israel   25
Japan   25
Belarus   23
Portugal   21
Greece   20
Hong Kong   18
Lithuania   18
Hungary   17
Malaysia   17
Romania   17
China   16
Iceland   16
South Africa   16
Croatia    14
Kazakhstan   13
Slovakia   12
Slovenia   12
Estonia   11
Thailand   11
Latvia   10
Bulgaria   9
Taiwan   9
Argentina   7
Chile   7
Mexico   7
Indonesia   6
Malta   6
Philippines   6
Colombia   5
Cyprus   5
United Arab Emirates   5
India    4
Luxemburg   4
Peru   4
Serbia   4
Bahrain    3
Kuwait   3
Uruguay   3
Faroe Islands   2
Gibraltar   2
Guadeloupe   2
Iraq    2
Jordan    2
Puerto Rico   2
Vietnam   2
Azerbaijan   1
Canary Islands    1
Costa Rica   1
Dominica   1
Greenland   1
Guernsey   1
Namibia    1
Nepal   1
New Caledonia   1
Panama   1
Qatar   1
Somalia   1
Uzbekistan    1


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Goral on February 05, 2015, 03:17:21 pm
Thanks.
First 10 countries make 85% of the profits., the rest is insignificant in comparison. It makes me sad that Poland is so low on this list but hopefully it will change once the game is released. Then again 2 million Poles emigrated to the UK (officially 1 million) so... ;P


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Ank on February 06, 2015, 05:29:28 pm
Pff better look and scale it to population size Goral... then weird things start popping out: yr poles did buy a lot of copies when compared to... say china (1.5 billion people and barely 2 dozen copies sold... but then again the number of pirated copies those guys probably hold would probably make Vince&crew richer then Bill Gates ::)   


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: AbounI on February 06, 2015, 07:32:30 pm
Not so bad Vince, not so bad.Last year (January 31th), it was half those scores.So it seems the early acces doesn't meet a slow down effect.
Congrats  :salute:



Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on February 06, 2015, 10:40:02 pm
Thanks.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: corund on February 20, 2015, 09:34:33 am
Great rpg, keep working!
I think some countries make more preorders because of the community leaders from that country. For example russian community has few very active members and this results in significant number of preorders. They put your free beta to popular torrent trackers, update it frequently, post your interviews, answer questions and this attracts new players. Probably you need to motivate your fans from other countries to be active and spread the word across the world about this great game!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: _Journeyman_ on March 03, 2015, 06:12:16 pm
Hi, just preordered the game, hoping is as good as it was sometime ago... but surely is.
I played the demo quite some time ago (like 2-3 years) and said to myself: as soon as I make some money I'll buy this game. Then I simply forgot.
Yesterday bored to death by the last cRPG i tried to think about a great game to play instead... and this just popped in my mind.

PS is the "think about filler character" $40 policy still standing?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on March 04, 2015, 07:53:14 am
Hi, just preordered the game, hoping is as good as it was sometime ago...
Thanks.

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PS is the "think about filler character" $40 policy still standing?
Sure. PM me your idea when you have time and we'll discuss it and the next steps.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zottelkrischan on April 08, 2015, 05:25:08 am
hello,

i preordered last year, my bmt-links didn't expire but gave me the same old version like last year july

how can i get an actual version?


greetings


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on April 08, 2015, 06:48:36 am
hello,

i preordered last year, my bmt-links didn't expire but gave me the same old version like last year july

how can i get an actual version?

greetings
We've been working on Ganezzar since July. It's still in beta (on Steam) and we're aiming to release it in mid-April. Then we'll update both the BMT and Early Access builds.

If you want to try the beta, I can send you a Steam key.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Zottelkrischan on April 08, 2015, 08:51:51 am
thanks for the fast reply
i didn't like steam, so if you can update it this month (i don't want to push you :-) then i wait for the updated bmt-link, if not i´ll ask for the steamkey at the end of the month


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sunfire on May 23, 2015, 08:36:42 am
How goes the sales?

UPD. Steamspy (http://steamspy.com/app/230070) says 15,704 ± 3,329.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 23, 2015, 10:49:02 am
13,111


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sunfire on May 23, 2015, 11:51:15 am
Well, there is some progress, though not very big.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on May 23, 2015, 12:19:12 pm
We sell 2-3 copies a day now since the game is all but invisible.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Sunfire on May 23, 2015, 02:59:41 pm
It seems like some PR-breakout is needed.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Hormiga Culona on June 03, 2015, 02:35:42 pm
Is this the best place to request a Steam key? I'm interested in obtaining one.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DarkCorp on October 12, 2015, 04:22:41 pm
Just purchased the basic Pre-Order.  Question is, when will the option to convert to a physical copy be available and where do I go to do so?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 12, 2015, 04:58:33 pm
Just purchased the basic Pre-Order.  Question is, when will the option to convert to a physical copy be available and where do I go to do so?
At the moment a physical copy isn't on the agenda. Basically, to get good quality we need to order at least a thousand copies and pay upfront. We can probably sell two, maybe three hundred boxes but I'm not sure we can sell a thousand.


Title: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Deuteros on October 14, 2015, 11:14:13 am
At the moment a physical copy isn't on the agenda. Basically, to get good quality we need to order at least a thousand copies and pay upfront. We can probably sell two, maybe three hundred boxes but I'm not sure we can sell a thousand.

Not even for those of us who pre-ordered through BMT Micro way back when? At the time, a boxed version for an extra $25 was in the cards.

Also, I'd love to get a GOG key. I never asked for a Steam key, by the way. I know Steam gives developers keys without any hassle but some Kickstarted projects have supplied its backers with GOG keys so it's definitely a possibility.

Also, hearty congratulations!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Cazzeris on October 14, 2015, 11:32:59 am
Just purchased the basic Pre-Order.  Question is, when will the option to convert to a physical copy be available and where do I go to do so?
At the moment a physical copy isn't on the agenda. Basically, to get good quality we need to order at least a thousand copies and pay upfront. We can probably sell two, maybe three hundred boxes but I'm not sure we can sell a thousand.

Well, you can always resort to making a small crowdfunding campaign for them. There are even some sites (https://www.gamersedition.com/) that exist just for cases like yours.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 14, 2015, 11:45:43 am
At the moment a physical copy isn't on the agenda. Basically, to get good quality we need to order at least a thousand copies and pay upfront. We can probably sell two, maybe three hundred boxes but I'm not sure we can sell a thousand.

Not even for those of us who pre-ordered through BMT Micro way back when? At the time, a boxed version for an extra $25 was in the cards.
From the original post:

BOXED VERSION: We aren’t offering a box version at this stage. It will be offered when the game is ready and when we place an order and will have something to show. You will be able to order it separately (i.e. you can pre-order the digital version now for $25 and upgrade it to a box for another $25 at any time).

Basically, when we started taking pre-orders - technically, before we started taking pre-orders as that's when the original post was written - we hoped to sell more but didn't. We planned to offer a box but due to low direct sales it's no longer an option.


Title: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Deuteros on October 14, 2015, 03:30:31 pm
I didn't quote the first post as I didn't want to come across as 'trying to hold you to your promise', so to speak. A physical release would be great! Other, lesser, RPGs released recently have had one and The Age of Decadence would be much more deserving of one than those. It would have to be truly special, tough. Two-piece cardboard box or don't bother. Entertain the idea of crowdfunding for one, or at least gauge the interest for one among pre-orderers.

What about GOG keys? Would you please contact them about it?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 14, 2015, 04:16:14 pm
Emailed them already but didn't hear back yet.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: suibhne on October 14, 2015, 04:31:31 pm
I'm guessing some people want a boxed version (as an add-on, which is all that was ever suggested) for collectibility reasons. Maybe a partial solution could be to offer merch with some of that splendid AoD art somewhere like Cafepress, where I think Iron Tower wouldn't have to take on any significant financial risk.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Commissar Draco on October 15, 2015, 02:03:40 am
I second the request for GOG key Komrade VD.  :salute: Got it thanks Komrade.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Mosely on October 15, 2015, 06:56:33 am
Just wanted to say I've been following the game for about 10 years (before I met my wife even), and just purchased it. It is pretty great so far, I've got no major complaints. Great job guys; I appreciate the hard work!


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DarkCorp on October 16, 2015, 09:13:37 am
So, if I bought the game 3 days ago from you drectly, were the 3 dl links for the final or an earlier version?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: 098799 on October 16, 2015, 09:18:05 am
IF you guys don't pay anything for the privilige of giving out gog keys, I'd appreciate one as well. No need to hurry though, I'm still on the quest of catching all of the steam achievements :)


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Nick on October 16, 2015, 10:25:40 am
So, if I bought the game 3 days ago from you drectly, were the 3 dl links for the final or an earlier version?

Thanks.
What links exactly are you talking about, though? Did you receive an email from BMT Micro?


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DarkCorp on October 20, 2015, 03:18:33 am
yes, the links are from them.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: Vince on October 20, 2015, 03:54:13 pm
The release version.


Title: Re: Pre-order The Age of Decadence
Post by: DarkCorp on October 28, 2015, 04:46:52 am
I'm on the NMA forum boards and I hear sales have passed 10k.  If this isn't BS, any chance of physical copy?